River/Laura?! OMGS. I think my brain would asplode... ;)
Also, regarding the tragic need to both have the circularity of mutual death and the ability to SMUSH THEM TOGETHER AND MAKE KISSING SOUNDS, I think I handle it by figuring, narratively, there is an infinite amount of time between these events? Like, the Doctor's first encounter with River is the one where she dies, similarly at some point, River may have an encounter with the Doctor where she kills him, but thanks to the weirdness of time, they will both continue to see each other after that - for the rest of their lives (if they mutually die for/kill each other). There are an infinite number of stories to tell in that space, even if there's also tragedy in that they both know how the other ends.
OR, there is the happier way of assuming that after he gets her OUT of the Library, they will live happily ever after. ;)
I get what you're saying about the Doctor knowing this ultimate secret about her. Fortunately for me, I don't feel that negates everything else, since River also has her own secrets, about the Doctor's name, which is clearly amazingly important, about who she is, etc., and quite possibly about his death too. But more than that, because I don't think the knowledge is something...that has power over her? She chose so clearly to make that choice, and we've seen her try to do it on more than one occasion since. If she really had died, it's one of the few "fridgings" I would have been on board with just because she was so certain, and so sure of it. In some ways that's another reason I'm annoyed she got saved because she CHOSE and her death was almost a giant validation of her agency and power. I think mostly what that ultimate knowledge does for the Doctor - and again, this is personal interpretation tied very closely to my reading of Eleven's reasons for running away - is tie him to her. It ends up holding power over him. If River knew it - how she was going to die - she'd shrug and move on. But for the Doctor it's a promise of things to come over which he has no control; it's proof of what she'll one day be to him, all she'll mean, all he'll lose, all she'll lose. It's the moment he failed to change the future and lost control of it - to her.
It's the moment he lost his heart, even if he didn't love her yet.
AND STUFF! ;)
Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying the meta-squee! Friending is always fine and welcome - please friend, defriend, comment-erratically-without-friending - it's all good. The only thing is, I don't always friend back right away, I really hope that's okay. I don't really use my flist as a general reading list like many do, and instead tend to actually surf over to journals, and try to keep my flist pared down. But you're very welcome to friend or not friend with that info, and I'd love to get to know you. :)
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Also, regarding the tragic need to both have the circularity of mutual death and the ability to SMUSH THEM TOGETHER AND MAKE KISSING SOUNDS, I think I handle it by figuring, narratively, there is an infinite amount of time between these events? Like, the Doctor's first encounter with River is the one where she dies, similarly at some point, River may have an encounter with the Doctor where she kills him, but thanks to the weirdness of time, they will both continue to see each other after that - for the rest of their lives (if they mutually die for/kill each other). There are an infinite number of stories to tell in that space, even if there's also tragedy in that they both know how the other ends.
OR, there is the happier way of assuming that after he gets her OUT of the Library, they will live happily ever after. ;)
I get what you're saying about the Doctor knowing this ultimate secret about her. Fortunately for me, I don't feel that negates everything else, since River also has her own secrets, about the Doctor's name, which is clearly amazingly important, about who she is, etc., and quite possibly about his death too. But more than that, because I don't think the knowledge is something...that has power over her? She chose so clearly to make that choice, and we've seen her try to do it on more than one occasion since. If she really had died, it's one of the few "fridgings" I would have been on board with just because she was so certain, and so sure of it. In some ways that's another reason I'm annoyed she got saved because she CHOSE and her death was almost a giant validation of her agency and power. I think mostly what that ultimate knowledge does for the Doctor - and again, this is personal interpretation tied very closely to my reading of Eleven's reasons for running away - is tie him to her. It ends up holding power over him. If River knew it - how she was going to die - she'd shrug and move on. But for the Doctor it's a promise of things to come over which he has no control; it's proof of what she'll one day be to him, all she'll mean, all he'll lose, all she'll lose. It's the moment he failed to change the future and lost control of it - to her.
It's the moment he lost his heart, even if he didn't love her yet.
AND STUFF! ;)
Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying the meta-squee! Friending is always fine and welcome - please friend, defriend, comment-erratically-without-friending - it's all good. The only thing is, I don't always friend back right away, I really hope that's okay. I don't really use my flist as a general reading list like many do, and instead tend to actually surf over to journals, and try to keep my flist pared down. But you're very welcome to friend or not friend with that info, and I'd love to get to know you. :)