ext_17566 ([identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] beccatoria 2009-01-18 05:15 am (UTC)

Re: Part the Second

I talked at length about Lee in my post (yeah, you’re shocked ;)

COMPLETELY SHOCKED! :p (but srsly, I will go read shortly and am sure I will enjoy). But yeah, Lee was great in this episode. I think not only is he in the position of looking forward and having Earth mean less to him personally, I think that it's easier for Lee to step up and have faith in himself when he has no other options. In some ways he's very like Roslin: when there's no one else to do it, that's when Lee just...loses his baggage and makes himself act. It's when he feels marginalised and irrelevant that he goes all emo and suicidal and overeats and stuff.

so her color wasn’t an issue when it came to her death.

Well, as I said, I actually basically agree with the dramatic decision and my first instinct is to agree and say that in this instance it was an example of killing a character who happened to be both female and black. That said, I know that the reason I'm giving, while sometimes valid, is also often used as an excuse when other factors are in play. This is more...me trying to be responsible and rigorous in my assumptions?

While I'm not saying it was necessarily what happened here, I'd also comment that in television and film, broadly speaking, women and/or people of colour are far more often cast as secondary characters who are in turn far more likely to be killed for emotional effect. So if that's something that's going on here, then it means it's less that Dualla's death in this particular instance dodgy in isolation and more that it plays into an unfortunate wider pattern of casting women and people of colour in more disposable roles.

But as I said...I'm bringing this up more as a question than an accusation, so it's interesting to hear your response! It is, basically, in line with my own; I just still worry that I'm wrong. It's such a difficult subject to navigate I don't want to be close-minded?

And Adama’s scenery chewing was made worse by the fact that everyone around him was going with the subtle acting approach.

Remember that idea (I think) you had about making a list of all the times Adama acted like an ass? When I rewatch I'm totally going to do that and a list of times EJO has gotten 500% of his daily carbohydrate allowance via the scenery.

When Laura Roslin breaks, you know there is a problem.

And that you're in for some spectacular acting. *wibbles*

Laura wants to suffer. She wants the slow, painful death because, in her mind, that’s what she’s done to her people and she needs to be punished. She promised to save them and now they are all going to die in the cold and isolation of space.

Oooh, yes. True. I had mostly seen it as...a form of apathy. Just exhaustion and giving up and it being easier. Sort of how I saw Lee in Resurrection Ship committing suicide by default rather than design. Just...not saving himself rather than killing himself.

But I absolutley think you have a point about her believing she needs to suffer a long, painful death.

It’s ALL ABOUT HIM.

Really, we're just watching the wrong show here, aren't we? ;)

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