ext_17566 ([identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] beccatoria 2009-02-17 10:57 am (UTC)

Right! I think I can answer your questions. In the episode, the question of who made the Thirteenth Tribe on Kobol is not answered, but in Ellen's cut monologue she indicates that the Twelve Tribes on Kobol "stole fire" from the Gods and made the Cylon and for that everyone was exiled from Paradise (with the Twelve going to the Colonies and the Thirteenth going to Earth). Whether there was also human/Cylon violence involved in the exodus I don't know.

The Cylon Thirteenth Tribe who went to Earth were not the Five. They were other models (presumably but not necessarily, hoardes of copies the way we have now). Once they got to Earth they eventually started procreating biologically meaning that resurrection fell out of use and they stopped all looking the same. Essentially the "Five" are the only five survivors of Earth's armageddon, and are just as unique as any five random humans because they were born rather than copied.

I don't know why the Five decided to make the humanoid Colonial-originating Cylon as multiples copies of a limited number of models. Perhaps resources? Perhaps stylistic request of the Centurions? Perhaps because that was the way the Thirteenth tribe used to be before they began to procreate? It doesn't say.

The Laura/Lee scene was pretty cool but you didn't really miss much except Laura telling Lee to assemble a new Quorum, and Lee saying maybe they should abandon the Colonial representation because they're not really Capricans and Piconese anymore, they're from Galactica or from Colonial One and they should acknowledge that. Which I'm in favour of if there's some form of elected representative from each ship. Not so much if it's just randomly allowed to be the ship captains.

I'm not sure we really know what the motivations of the Centurions during the war were. But yeah, there is an irony that Cavil wanted justice for his enslaved ancestors and decided to fight that war by...enslaving his ancestors to do it for him.

I don't know why I read the scene with Ellen and the Centurion that way, but I did. Like, I took her "thank you, you're very kind," to be genuine? And her request it make 'human' contact with her by helping her to be something they're not often asked to do and so I think she was trying to reassure it because it was hesitant? But I could be wrong...

OMG TORY/ELLEN SHOW DOWN. I hope there are punches...

Also, YES. NO TOOTHBRUSHING. THANK YOU CYLON GOD.

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