ext_2573 ([identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] beccatoria 2007-03-15 12:21 am (UTC)

Re: Kara and her many parents.

Firstly - you are queen of making me think so much ..

M'Lady you're the one with the awesome reviews and thoughts that make me wanna take notes everytime I watch an episode. It's like that one super awesome university lecture that you totally wanted to pay attention to.

I'd really recommend it - the character has balls aplenty in those episodes.

Yes yes I know. Where do you download your episodes from I should get to watching on the computer.

(awesome! Zoolander!)

Funerals will never be the same.

(which the network insisted be added, I believe - they were worried she wasn't evil enough to assassinate)

O.o Well they were right! I am shocked that the networks were the ones to make this call. Without the civilian deaths, she most certainly was NOT worthy of assassination, but she was totally within her rights to terminate Adama's command. Well, not to kill him, but to remove him. Because frankly, he was all "You stole my players and I want them back and if you don't give 'em back, you don't get to play with my baseball anymore!" *runs off baseball diamond to sulk*

True, but that gets to the interesting part that the only way she could have done that was to decimiate the democratic civilian system. As you note, she would have had to surrender power to civilian leadership - and her story arc is all about what happens when you have military dictatorships.

And there is the incredible reality comparison: Pakistan had a military coup and the UN, particularly the US demanded that the military leader remove himself from presidency (they didn't seem to disapprove of the coup itself). Only, he never left. As far as I know, he's still there and is accepted.

REmove the crazy assassinating/abandoning civilians part, and I truly see nothing wrong with Cain (crazy? no not at all), save that she would never have shown compassion to the Cylons in any form. Not even one who swears her allegiance. I don't think she would have relinquishes military command re: New Caprica without confirmation that the Cylons were destroyed, but I'm not sure she would have done worse than Gaius. And more importantly, they would have butted heads, but I bet you she would have gotten along with Roslin. She respected people who got what they wanted. Roslin was just coming at it from a different angle (civilian). And now, we clearly see how alike their thinking is.

Meanwhile Adama? He's really not that wonderful a leader. But I still love him and await his redemption.

In the original series, my brother told me that the conflict between the two was that Cain wanted to attack a massive Cylon strong hold, which was basically suicidal, but it could have gone better with Galactica along side. Adama wouldn't risk the civilians by risking Galactica. Cain went alone and Pegasus was destroyed.

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