*must not make Bill macro: I like mah wives like I like mah dautrs: SUICIDAL YAYZ!*
Bwhahahahaha!!!
I do agree with you about Laura and about A/R here, to a point. I think that Laura wants to be doing here what we saw Dee doing last week, but whereas Dee actually seemed to be at peace with her decision, seemed truly to be enjoying her last day, Laura's just barely holding it together. Someone else (chaila43 or zinke, but I don't remember which) suggested that Laura feels like she's protesting too much here, and I agree. That scene in the hallway was absolutely heartbreaking because she was fighting her tears the whole time. The carpe diem attitude is not something she actually believes in here; it's just a protective shield. My viewing buddy R. suggested that this is another step in the grieving process after the lying on a ball on the floor from last week.
My reading of the A/R sex differs from yours in that I think they've been sleeping together for quite some time now, which I think makes the fact that it's happening in this situation a little less sketchy overall (apparently EJO and MM agree with me, whereas RDM thinks this was their first time but admits it's open to interpretation). I still think that final scene was pretty much the most depressing thing ever, and I rather adore the fact that only on this show can happy post-coital cuddling from my favorite pairing be depressing. But it was all supposed to be Very Wrong in that moment and under those circumstances. Not that they were having sex, necessarily, but because they were abdicating their responsibility for the fleet in that moment.
But mostly, yes, we agree. Oh, show!
There was a lot of good world-building in this episode, actually. I found it gave me far more of a feel for the state of the Fleet than the last one which was all high drama and people punching each other in corridors. But...yeah. Kara and Gaeta in the mess hall was a macrocosm of all the hurt in the world and I really liked that moment.
Yes! They did so much with that scene. Lots of showing rather than telling.
I agree 100% about Tyrol and Cally and Hot Dog. Just...really, show???
BSG's continued destruction of the nuclear family as a healthy default for domestic stability and happiness continues to entertain me.
You know, I don't think I'd ever thought about this in quite these terms. I love it!
CAPRICA AND TIGH AND THE FLIPPERBABY ON THE SONOGRAM!!!!!!!! I am slightly ashamed to admit that when I realized what was happening in that scene I squealed out loud! WHY DO I LOVE THEM SO????? Oh, who cares. I DOOOOOO!!!!!
I kind of can sort of maybe see it if I squint, in that, while I think Saul thinks Ellen is forever dead, the fact that she was a cylon is probably, in some ways, a weight off his mind. Since in addition to killing her, he was also wrestling with his betrayal of her in terms of species. I think there's some peace to be found there in terms of his ability to begin to accept - at least a little - that he is a cylon. So I can kind of believe he's in a better place right now.
Yes, this! I was really surprised by Saul's lack of angst in that first scene as well as by the fact that apparently he's told at least Bill and Lee (and Zarek? and Laura? and the other Cylons?) that Ellen was the fifth. It's as though instead of causing him more distress, this knowledge has given him some peace, some ability to see what's true and what's not. Unlike Tyrol and his pronoun slippage (which was hilarious), Saul actually seems to have things straight here. He's XO of Galactica and he's a Cylon and he's freaking out a little bit while watching his fetus on a sonogram, but he's really holding everything together far better than I ever imagined he would be right now.
Which all makes me really worried for when Ellen shows up!!!! *smushes Caprica and Saul together*
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Bwhahahahaha!!!
I do agree with you about Laura and about A/R here, to a point. I think that Laura wants to be doing here what we saw Dee doing last week, but whereas Dee actually seemed to be at peace with her decision, seemed truly to be enjoying her last day, Laura's just barely holding it together. Someone else (
My reading of the A/R sex differs from yours in that I think they've been sleeping together for quite some time now, which I think makes the fact that it's happening in this situation a little less sketchy overall (apparently EJO and MM agree with me, whereas RDM thinks this was their first time but admits it's open to interpretation). I still think that final scene was pretty much the most depressing thing ever, and I rather adore the fact that only on this show can happy post-coital cuddling from my favorite pairing be depressing. But it was all supposed to be Very Wrong in that moment and under those circumstances. Not that they were having sex, necessarily, but because they were abdicating their responsibility for the fleet in that moment.
But mostly, yes, we agree. Oh, show!
There was a lot of good world-building in this episode, actually. I found it gave me far more of a feel for the state of the Fleet than the last one which was all high drama and people punching each other in corridors. But...yeah. Kara and Gaeta in the mess hall was a macrocosm of all the hurt in the world and I really liked that moment.
Yes! They did so much with that scene. Lots of showing rather than telling.
I agree 100% about Tyrol and Cally and Hot Dog. Just...really, show???
BSG's continued destruction of the nuclear family as a healthy default for domestic stability and happiness continues to entertain me.
You know, I don't think I'd ever thought about this in quite these terms. I love it!
CAPRICA AND TIGH AND THE FLIPPERBABY ON THE SONOGRAM!!!!!!!! I am slightly ashamed to admit that when I realized what was happening in that scene I squealed out loud! WHY DO I LOVE THEM SO????? Oh, who cares. I DOOOOOO!!!!!
I kind of can sort of maybe see it if I squint, in that, while I think Saul thinks Ellen is forever dead, the fact that she was a cylon is probably, in some ways, a weight off his mind. Since in addition to killing her, he was also wrestling with his betrayal of her in terms of species. I think there's some peace to be found there in terms of his ability to begin to accept - at least a little - that he is a cylon. So I can kind of believe he's in a better place right now.
Yes, this! I was really surprised by Saul's lack of angst in that first scene as well as by the fact that apparently he's told at least Bill and Lee (and Zarek? and Laura? and the other Cylons?) that Ellen was the fifth. It's as though instead of causing him more distress, this knowledge has given him some peace, some ability to see what's true and what's not. Unlike Tyrol and his pronoun slippage (which was hilarious), Saul actually seems to have things straight here. He's XO of Galactica and he's a Cylon and he's freaking out a little bit while watching his fetus on a sonogram, but he's really holding everything together far better than I ever imagined he would be right now.
Which all makes me really worried for when Ellen shows up!!!! *smushes Caprica and Saul together*