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beccatoria) wrote2009-04-07 02:50 pm
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TV Poll! I don't watch enough to know what's on!
Okay so. When I started hating The X-Files, it was right around the time I fell for Farscape. When Farscape got axed BSG very kindly showed up to steal my heart. Now that BSG is over (and my heart is in tatters; nope, still not over the surreal anti-intellectual reactionary technophobic crap: after all the stuff it pulled and the wars fought in its name they should have kept the tech and thrown GOD into the sun) I find myself adrift.
My cunning plan was to jump on the Terminator train anddevelop wallow in an enormous crush on Agent Ellison and an intellectual crush on Weaver/Cameron/John Henry. However, it's looking increasingly and depressingly likely that it won't get renewed. *commences wailing*
And for real, I watch like, no television. Occasionally I'll catch an episode of House or Bones or something but other than that, my TV schedule consists pretty much exclusively of BSG, Terminator and, when it's on, Dexter. So I need advice on what to start watching next.
I know you can't force fannish love, but I can at least start, um, "seeing other shows," and finding out if there's a spark, right?
So, my personal ad! Sorta.
Basically I like science fiction/fantasy/magic realism/SOMETHING that means its not just...our normal, ordinary world. This makes me feel like a really huge geek, because I don't watch shows everyone tells me are amazing like The West Wing or The Wire because I'm like...blah. It's not crazy or magic or epic enough! Boo!
I love brilliant acting and interesting character arcs. I like narrative story arcs.
I also like shows that make me think. I like shows that try to talk about big, complicated issues, and I have a special weakness for techy cyborgy religious weirdness and moral relativism done well (i.e. NOT as an excuse for the hero to do reprehensible, selfish things just because it's "dark" which MUST make it "cool" and "more mature.")
I mean, I enjoy TV that doesn't make me think lots too; I do completely get that "I just want to have fun with it!" mentality. But I find it hard to be truly fannish about those shows because, well, I end up with nothing to say, or vid.
Similarly, I can love shows that are set completely within the bounds of the "real world" (Dexter and Breaking Bad are both ace) but similarly, it's hard for me to really connect on a total geek-out level.
I think the problem is that I'm a science fiction fan in the tradition of LeGuin or Ghost in the Shell. I want everything. I want all the big issues we face combined with world-/civilisation-spanning alien fascinating stuff that punches these issues out into an arena other than the one we're familiar with, and as such, allows us to examine these issues from new angles.
I guess what I want is intelligent science fiction, with a side-order of character-arc and extra epic.
Do any of you know where I might be able to find such a thing these days?
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My cunning plan was to jump on the Terminator train and
And for real, I watch like, no television. Occasionally I'll catch an episode of House or Bones or something but other than that, my TV schedule consists pretty much exclusively of BSG, Terminator and, when it's on, Dexter. So I need advice on what to start watching next.
I know you can't force fannish love, but I can at least start, um, "seeing other shows," and finding out if there's a spark, right?
So, my personal ad! Sorta.
Basically I like science fiction/fantasy/magic realism/SOMETHING that means its not just...our normal, ordinary world. This makes me feel like a really huge geek, because I don't watch shows everyone tells me are amazing like The West Wing or The Wire because I'm like...blah. It's not crazy or magic or epic enough! Boo!
I love brilliant acting and interesting character arcs. I like narrative story arcs.
I also like shows that make me think. I like shows that try to talk about big, complicated issues, and I have a special weakness for techy cyborgy religious weirdness and moral relativism done well (i.e. NOT as an excuse for the hero to do reprehensible, selfish things just because it's "dark" which MUST make it "cool" and "more mature.")
I mean, I enjoy TV that doesn't make me think lots too; I do completely get that "I just want to have fun with it!" mentality. But I find it hard to be truly fannish about those shows because, well, I end up with nothing to say, or vid.
Similarly, I can love shows that are set completely within the bounds of the "real world" (Dexter and Breaking Bad are both ace) but similarly, it's hard for me to really connect on a total geek-out level.
I think the problem is that I'm a science fiction fan in the tradition of LeGuin or Ghost in the Shell. I want everything. I want all the big issues we face combined with world-/civilisation-spanning alien fascinating stuff that punches these issues out into an arena other than the one we're familiar with, and as such, allows us to examine these issues from new angles.
I guess what I want is intelligent science fiction, with a side-order of character-arc and extra epic.
Do any of you know where I might be able to find such a thing these days?
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(Seriously, this might be a dumb question, but have you actually watched these?)
In terms of shows that are actually still on the air, bar T:TSCC... yeah, I got nothin'.
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For the others, well, I adored the first season of Angel and large parts of the second. It was just gorgeous. I loved the darker tone and it's one of the few shows I think worked best with a lot of standalone episodes and an arc in the background. I have to be honest, I didn't like the third season, and stopped watching halfway through it. I heard stuff got back on track during the final season but I never watched it.
Essentially I feel like Buffy got darker as it went along, while Angel started off incredibly dark but slowly turned into Buffy with the epic storylines and stuff. I always... I'll always remember and mourn the quiet, serious, graphic-novel first season about Angel's personal quest to fulfill his personal destiny and help lost souls. I think it lost something fundamental to its awesome when it started going in the Buffy direction.
As to Buffy, I've seen...probably about a third of it including most of the major arc episodes? I do like it and I can see why people are crazy devoted to it, but I never connected with it the way a lot of people did. I couldn't really say why. I think perhaps it was that no single character ever made me fall in love with them until Anya and by then, I was watching other things?