MWAHAHAHA, I sucked you in. ;) Yeah, I obviously never had a problem understanding Lee and really liked him, but do agree that the show did an inconsistent job of characterising him and therefore I suppose I fell for him quickly and then spent a lot of time in the middle going WTF before he got back to being the Lee I remembered in the end. Whereas I think Peter is more consistently characterised but not characterised very deeply?
And yes, I was comparing Kara/Lee to Peter/Olivia in that same way. I missed the stuff that was supposed to make me ship them and I'm left thinking it's just the ship because they're the two leads, not because it actually makes narrative sense. In fact, again like Kara/Lee, I feel Peter and Olivia have a better relationship as pseudo siblings who share a father-figure who treated both of them questionably as children.
So in this comparison, Kara/Sam is Peter/Altlivia because it's the "complication" to the ship who comes along to be a third wheel in the triangle and can't possibly really pose a threat to the endgame, obvious ship, except...said complication ends up actually suiting the ship much better? And that's like, where I'm at? I'd be really interested to see where they would go with Peter/Altlivia because as you say, he chose her even if he didn't mean to, even if he wishes he didn't. He liked what they had, and that's never going to be what he will have with Olivia. And then there's the question, is that what he wants with Olivia? I have a sneaking suspicion that even though he wouldn't want to admit it, Peter would be happier in the kind of relationship Altlivia could offer him than the kind of relationship Olivia could?
And yes, I think poor Frank is Dee in this equation. But I also don't think I'm going to get anything as surprising and Peter/Altlivia actually being where they go with this, or even if it was, how they could now go with Peter/Altlivia without it being weeeeeeird. But...idk. I still kinda ship it.
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Date: 2011-01-24 10:44 pm (UTC)And yes, I was comparing Kara/Lee to Peter/Olivia in that same way. I missed the stuff that was supposed to make me ship them and I'm left thinking it's just the ship because they're the two leads, not because it actually makes narrative sense. In fact, again like Kara/Lee, I feel Peter and Olivia have a better relationship as pseudo siblings who share a father-figure who treated both of them questionably as children.
So in this comparison, Kara/Sam is Peter/Altlivia because it's the "complication" to the ship who comes along to be a third wheel in the triangle and can't possibly really pose a threat to the endgame, obvious ship, except...said complication ends up actually suiting the ship much better? And that's like, where I'm at? I'd be really interested to see where they would go with Peter/Altlivia because as you say, he chose her even if he didn't mean to, even if he wishes he didn't. He liked what they had, and that's never going to be what he will have with Olivia. And then there's the question, is that what he wants with Olivia? I have a sneaking suspicion that even though he wouldn't want to admit it, Peter would be happier in the kind of relationship Altlivia could offer him than the kind of relationship Olivia could?
And yes, I think poor Frank is Dee in this equation. But I also don't think I'm going to get anything as surprising and Peter/Altlivia actually being where they go with this, or even if it was, how they could now go with Peter/Altlivia without it being weeeeeeird. But...idk. I still kinda ship it.