there's absolutely nothing wrong with knowing your audience! I'm going to write a bit about this because I had a LOT of insights about why certain VVC vids make a big splash at the con but those of us at home sit and scratch our heads thinking 'really?!' I've done that for YEARS and thought it was me who was crazycakes (which is why it's been interesting/a relief to see people like you and chaila43 talking honestly about how your reactions were a bit different). I used to ask people about this a lot but never got a straight answer about what was so different about viewing them at the con versus viewing them at home. I scribbled notes on this at the con and I have my own thoughts on it. They may be semi-controversial to people, I don't know, I hope not, but a lot of it comes down to: VVC is a really specific audience. At the con it's obvious that everyone knows this and is playing hard to it and it's got such a strong community feeling but it's also kind of bubble-like? Like I literally found it really hard to speak to anyone outside the con after three days there! (I know that sounds nuts but it's a really intense experience.) So I think people come out of the con and they're still really IN the con experience and talking to the people that were there a lot when they post about it. Probably for most people they figure that is the same as talking to people not at the con or they don't stop to think about it at all. Having been mystified by the whole thing for years to me it's really NOT the same thing. I'm eventually going to rec vids but I'd already thought I was going to mark out 'vids that were awesome con experiences' versus 'vids that I think people at home will enjoy/get a lot out of'. Because to me personally those are still different things.
do not have much information at all about slash fandom, especially not the more, err, hardcore aspects of it Count yourself lucky?! ;) I have a love-hate relationship with slash fandom that started when I was 15. I can really really get into slash under the right circumstances and it was totally my gateway drug to fandom but I think it can at times be problematic and sometimes the community makes me feel deeply uncomfortable, especially when people start talking about it being socially empowering to read torture fic... there's a line, you know? Or there is for me. ;) Enjoy your kink but respect PEOPLE. It's kind of like how some forms of feminism become really unattractive to me if they cross a line into constant malebashing without any constructive dialogue (which isn't true feminism to me). Does that make sense?
the kids on the swings aren't doing the same things as the kids in the sandbox Right! :) And there were plenty of people at the con who felt the same way (notably there were only 1 or 2 slash vids in premieres this year--there's a shift occurring in the community) and that's ALSO part of why the vid was interesting--because it felt critical of (hardcore) slash fandom and people who attend the con but feel uncomfortable with those aspects got a chance to go 'yesss! I've never been comfortable with this thing about you guys!'
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Date: 2010-08-25 03:08 pm (UTC)I'm going to write a bit about this because I had a LOT of insights about why certain VVC vids make a big splash at the con but those of us at home sit and scratch our heads thinking 'really?!' I've done that for YEARS and thought it was me who was crazycakes (which is why it's been interesting/a relief to see people like you and
do not have much information at all about slash fandom, especially not the more, err, hardcore aspects of it
Count yourself lucky?! ;) I have a love-hate relationship with slash fandom that started when I was 15. I can really really get into slash under the right circumstances and it was totally my gateway drug to fandom but I think it can at times be problematic and sometimes the community makes me feel deeply uncomfortable, especially when people start talking about it being socially empowering to read torture fic... there's a line, you know? Or there is for me. ;) Enjoy your kink but respect PEOPLE. It's kind of like how some forms of feminism become really unattractive to me if they cross a line into constant malebashing without any constructive dialogue (which isn't true feminism to me). Does that make sense?
the kids on the swings aren't doing the same things as the kids in the sandbox
Right! :) And there were plenty of people at the con who felt the same way (notably there were only 1 or 2 slash vids in premieres this year--there's a shift occurring in the community) and that's ALSO part of why the vid was interesting--because it felt critical of (hardcore) slash fandom and people who attend the con but feel uncomfortable with those aspects got a chance to go 'yesss! I've never been comfortable with this thing about you guys!'