OH GOD I KNOW I'M SO SORRY FOR WHAT IV'E DONE TO YOU AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT.
My only defence is: Diana? I mean, that was worth it, right?
I think the reason is partly just because it always is configured so much as a competition it's hard to escape that mentality. If you know it'll always be set up against the other thing no matter how much you don't want it to be. So if you start to care about something on one side of the divide - if you start to love it, it becomes hard not to be defensive. Because praise of something totally different is so often an implicit criticism of the thing you love. I mean, it shouldn't have to be, but so often it is.
Plus I also think that Diana specifically occupies a uniquely complicated space in pop culture. So much of how people react to her is like a rorschach test and she represents some stuff that's...really emotionally important to us and so again, that makes distance difficult. She really does get dismissed and overcriticised so much and yet keeps being there I think it's hard not to be bitter when her contributions to like, STUFF, are overlooked.
tl;dr, I think at least to a degree you get tribal over Diana because she is your precious angel darling.
But also, yeah, I definitely kind of ruined you slightly and dragged you into the wider mess of DC vs Marvel and for that, um, welcome to the blanket fort? We have a badass poster on the door? :D?
Like iZombie shouldn't be an argument to dodge the issue of the lack of female leads in superhero-related properties, or an an "answer" to Agent Carter, but neither is it totally irrelevant.
Yes! Exactly! But I'm just not sure how to like...weight that, you know?
I think gennusshrike made a good point in that...are we comparing publishers or superhero fiction and those are different things. But...how the overlap works is... Feh. *throws up hands* *puts up more posters of Wonder Woman in the blanket fort*
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Date: 2014-08-05 04:56 pm (UTC)My only defence is: Diana? I mean, that was worth it, right?
I think the reason is partly just because it always is configured so much as a competition it's hard to escape that mentality. If you know it'll always be set up against the other thing no matter how much you don't want it to be. So if you start to care about something on one side of the divide - if you start to love it, it becomes hard not to be defensive. Because praise of something totally different is so often an implicit criticism of the thing you love. I mean, it shouldn't have to be, but so often it is.
Plus I also think that Diana specifically occupies a uniquely complicated space in pop culture. So much of how people react to her is like a rorschach test and she represents some stuff that's...really emotionally important to us and so again, that makes distance difficult. She really does get dismissed and overcriticised so much and yet keeps being there I think it's hard not to be bitter when her contributions to like, STUFF, are overlooked.
tl;dr, I think at least to a degree you get tribal over Diana because she is your precious angel darling.
But also, yeah, I definitely kind of ruined you slightly and dragged you into the wider mess of DC vs Marvel and for that, um, welcome to the blanket fort? We have a badass poster on the door? :D?
Like iZombie shouldn't be an argument to dodge the issue of the lack of female leads in superhero-related properties, or an an "answer" to Agent Carter, but neither is it totally irrelevant.
Yes! Exactly! But I'm just not sure how to like...weight that, you know?
I think gennusshrike made a good point in that...are we comparing publishers or superhero fiction and those are different things. But...how the overlap works is... Feh. *throws up hands* *puts up more posters of Wonder Woman in the blanket fort*