I'm glad you like it. I think I agree with you about it going off the rails when they get to Earth. Which is so unfair because in principle I love what they were trying to do.
I think in general I'm just mourning the fact that one of the things I loved best about 4.5 was the slow blending of human and Cylon culture in the Fleet. And that's kind of...gone now. I mean, not entirely because the 268s are still there. But all the beautiful visuals; redstripe Centurions fighting alongside marines, Cylons on the memorial wall, joint funeral services, commissioned Cylon officers and representatives on the quorum on this beautiful cyborged ship... that's gone.
I liked Watchtower too, actually. And I honestly don't have any problem with it being tied to Earth and co-ordinates and something that people just...mystically come up with at times. But I still think that Kara's dad knowing it and teaching it to her is very random when all the rest ties so neatly into the Earth-Cylon-Hybrid thing? It did work for me as the final blind-jump though.
I wish there hadn't been as much divine intervention either. And I never thought I'd say that because I like the inexplicably mystical. But I thought it was a little too much god, too little creepy robots in this instance.
I think you're right and half of why I hate the Tory and Tyrol stuff so much is that I like Tory a lot and I always used to love Chief until his recent turn at CREEPY GUY. But just...eeew.
I'd love to hear any of your thoughts on where the Colonials and Cylons fit in! I'm a little confused too. But...if they became us without breeding with the humans already there, I think all the lost knowledge is easy to explain.
They shot all their tech into the sun without any ways of rebuilding it. How many generations before this lost lore becomes secondary to practical survival? Throughout human history there have been dark ages and rennaisances where information is lost and regained and this was 150,000 years ago. Any evidence they did leave of complex settlements or tools, etc., would very, very likely simply be lost to time. Which is why I don't think that the whole anti-technology message was necessary in the first place.
They could have had a stable if relatively low-tech civilsation last for twenty-thousand years before some minor catastrophe scattered them and us not finding any evidence of it wouldn't be all that weird.
But also...I'm like, totally backseat anthropology driving here and don't really know what I'm talking about!
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Date: 2009-03-22 12:40 pm (UTC)I think in general I'm just mourning the fact that one of the things I loved best about 4.5 was the slow blending of human and Cylon culture in the Fleet. And that's kind of...gone now. I mean, not entirely because the 268s are still there. But all the beautiful visuals; redstripe Centurions fighting alongside marines, Cylons on the memorial wall, joint funeral services, commissioned Cylon officers and representatives on the quorum on this beautiful cyborged ship... that's gone.
I liked Watchtower too, actually. And I honestly don't have any problem with it being tied to Earth and co-ordinates and something that people just...mystically come up with at times. But I still think that Kara's dad knowing it and teaching it to her is very random when all the rest ties so neatly into the Earth-Cylon-Hybrid thing? It did work for me as the final blind-jump though.
I wish there hadn't been as much divine intervention either. And I never thought I'd say that because I like the inexplicably mystical. But I thought it was a little too much god, too little creepy robots in this instance.
I think you're right and half of why I hate the Tory and Tyrol stuff so much is that I like Tory a lot and I always used to love Chief until his recent turn at CREEPY GUY. But just...eeew.
I'd love to hear any of your thoughts on where the Colonials and Cylons fit in! I'm a little confused too. But...if they became us without breeding with the humans already there, I think all the lost knowledge is easy to explain.
They shot all their tech into the sun without any ways of rebuilding it. How many generations before this lost lore becomes secondary to practical survival? Throughout human history there have been dark ages and rennaisances where information is lost and regained and this was 150,000 years ago. Any evidence they did leave of complex settlements or tools, etc., would very, very likely simply be lost to time. Which is why I don't think that the whole anti-technology message was necessary in the first place.
They could have had a stable if relatively low-tech civilsation last for twenty-thousand years before some minor catastrophe scattered them and us not finding any evidence of it wouldn't be all that weird.
But also...I'm like, totally backseat anthropology driving here and don't really know what I'm talking about!