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beccatoriaOh, all right, Fringe, I'll bite and at least make a little post about the finale before it airs.
1) Nina Sharpe? There are alternates of everyone else, but not her? Not even in the trailers? It's possible that Alternina is just in some other line of work and not relevant to the plot, but that seems...unlikely. I'm thinking there'll be some sort of reveal there, especially given that extremely weird conversation she had with Walter before he crossed over to get Peter in 1985. When she basically said, in not so many words, that she knew what Walter was going through (loss of a child), but then also specifically tied that down to Peter and how much Peter meant to her. She could have just been a favorite aunt figure who also had the loss of a child in her life, sure, but somehow, I suspect something else. The easy answer is that Nina is really Peter's mom, but I don't think that's right either given the way the whole thing has been handled. Obviously I'm sure Elizabeth Bishop would love him just as much if he were her adopted rather than biological son, but something about the narrative arc and media tropes (even if those tropes aren't always the most progressive of things) suggests that's not the case. So I have no freaking clue what's up with Nina, her relationship to Peter, or Alternina, but there damn well is SOMETHING, so I'm saying now: I will not be surprised if she shows up in the finale and Shit Goes Down.
2) What's Olivia's Super Cortexiphan Power? Nick Lane is an empath, Sally Clarke is a pyrokinetic, and that other dude whose name I forget is a healer/spreader of cancer. So far Olivia has only really demonstrated the seemingly universal Cortexabilities of perceiving Altverse objects and crossing over to the other side. However, we know that as a child she started a fire with her mind, and at the start of season two, she had some weird super hearing going on, until Bowling Alley Guy sorted her out, so she wasn't scared anymore and felt in control again, and since it seems her abilities are tied to fear, the super hearing seems to have disappeared too (though I admit the correlation there is my assumption). So is she pyrokinetic like Sally? Does she have superhearing like the Bionic Woman? She already has two abilities rather than the usual one, it seems. Is that because she was Super Special? Or just because the other kids didn't learn more than one yet? Or...? I don't know. And in some ways I appreciate that they underplay these things because Olivia running around like an ACTUAL SUPERHERO has the potential to be great but also the potential to be kind of weird. But it's a question that's gonna have to be answered eventually cus otherwise instead of looking like the bestest of the Cortexikids, she looks like the one who got the power of Heart. (Which is fine, but then Mother Nature better give her a kickass pet monkey, that's all I'm saying.)
3) Speaking of Cortexikids, I'm thinking that Altlivia isn't one. I'm thinking that the early 80s experiments conducted by our Walter were not conducted by Walternate. Partly I base this on the fact that when Peter is sick, unlike Walter, Walternate is not peeking at our universe suggesting he's unaware of a parallel universe before his son is kidnapped and the event causes his entire universe to destabilise, which would make a person look into something like that. However, if he was aware, he might also have been aware that we were technologically inferior and that's why he didn't look to us for a cure for his son. However, I do think that further circumstantial evidence can be found in the fact that Walternate, as Secretary of Defence, can pretty much do what the fuck he likes. And if he had a bunch of Cortexikids, specially created as soldiers to defend against the Other Side, he would be using them right now. Which suggests to me that even if there are some Cortexikids on the Other Side, Altlivia is not one of them, or she'd already be working under Walternate and know what was going on.
So, my next thinking is, on the assumption that Walternate was either unaware of or disinterested in our universe until 1985, if he then started experimenting with Cortexiphan, the Cortexikids would be younger than Olivia. This leads to two intriguing possibilities:
a) The vaguely credible option, though still unlikely: Alt-strid. It would explain where her freaky and apparently precognitive abilities come from.
b) The EVEN MORE unlikely option: Alt-Ella. Which wouldn't really do anything interesting narratively except for how AWESOMELY PISSED that would make Olivia. And how it would be a wonderful way to bring to the forefront that tightly controlled fury that Olivia rightly holds against Walter, even though her compassion for him also exists.
IN CONCLUSION: DON'T YOU HURT ME, SHOW. DON'T YOU DARE.
...and I'm done. :)
1) Nina Sharpe? There are alternates of everyone else, but not her? Not even in the trailers? It's possible that Alternina is just in some other line of work and not relevant to the plot, but that seems...unlikely. I'm thinking there'll be some sort of reveal there, especially given that extremely weird conversation she had with Walter before he crossed over to get Peter in 1985. When she basically said, in not so many words, that she knew what Walter was going through (loss of a child), but then also specifically tied that down to Peter and how much Peter meant to her. She could have just been a favorite aunt figure who also had the loss of a child in her life, sure, but somehow, I suspect something else. The easy answer is that Nina is really Peter's mom, but I don't think that's right either given the way the whole thing has been handled. Obviously I'm sure Elizabeth Bishop would love him just as much if he were her adopted rather than biological son, but something about the narrative arc and media tropes (even if those tropes aren't always the most progressive of things) suggests that's not the case. So I have no freaking clue what's up with Nina, her relationship to Peter, or Alternina, but there damn well is SOMETHING, so I'm saying now: I will not be surprised if she shows up in the finale and Shit Goes Down.
2) What's Olivia's Super Cortexiphan Power? Nick Lane is an empath, Sally Clarke is a pyrokinetic, and that other dude whose name I forget is a healer/spreader of cancer. So far Olivia has only really demonstrated the seemingly universal Cortexabilities of perceiving Altverse objects and crossing over to the other side. However, we know that as a child she started a fire with her mind, and at the start of season two, she had some weird super hearing going on, until Bowling Alley Guy sorted her out, so she wasn't scared anymore and felt in control again, and since it seems her abilities are tied to fear, the super hearing seems to have disappeared too (though I admit the correlation there is my assumption). So is she pyrokinetic like Sally? Does she have superhearing like the Bionic Woman? She already has two abilities rather than the usual one, it seems. Is that because she was Super Special? Or just because the other kids didn't learn more than one yet? Or...? I don't know. And in some ways I appreciate that they underplay these things because Olivia running around like an ACTUAL SUPERHERO has the potential to be great but also the potential to be kind of weird. But it's a question that's gonna have to be answered eventually cus otherwise instead of looking like the bestest of the Cortexikids, she looks like the one who got the power of Heart. (Which is fine, but then Mother Nature better give her a kickass pet monkey, that's all I'm saying.)
3) Speaking of Cortexikids, I'm thinking that Altlivia isn't one. I'm thinking that the early 80s experiments conducted by our Walter were not conducted by Walternate. Partly I base this on the fact that when Peter is sick, unlike Walter, Walternate is not peeking at our universe suggesting he's unaware of a parallel universe before his son is kidnapped and the event causes his entire universe to destabilise, which would make a person look into something like that. However, if he was aware, he might also have been aware that we were technologically inferior and that's why he didn't look to us for a cure for his son. However, I do think that further circumstantial evidence can be found in the fact that Walternate, as Secretary of Defence, can pretty much do what the fuck he likes. And if he had a bunch of Cortexikids, specially created as soldiers to defend against the Other Side, he would be using them right now. Which suggests to me that even if there are some Cortexikids on the Other Side, Altlivia is not one of them, or she'd already be working under Walternate and know what was going on.
So, my next thinking is, on the assumption that Walternate was either unaware of or disinterested in our universe until 1985, if he then started experimenting with Cortexiphan, the Cortexikids would be younger than Olivia. This leads to two intriguing possibilities:
a) The vaguely credible option, though still unlikely: Alt-strid. It would explain where her freaky and apparently precognitive abilities come from.
b) The EVEN MORE unlikely option: Alt-Ella. Which wouldn't really do anything interesting narratively except for how AWESOMELY PISSED that would make Olivia. And how it would be a wonderful way to bring to the forefront that tightly controlled fury that Olivia rightly holds against Walter, even though her compassion for him also exists.
IN CONCLUSION: DON'T YOU HURT ME, SHOW. DON'T YOU DARE.
...and I'm done. :)
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Date: 2010-05-19 12:24 am (UTC)you know, it hadn't even occured to me that we haven't seen alternina yet. what about william bell's au version? or does he exist only once?
re: olivia: we've also seen her switch off lights with her mind to prevent that bomb from going off in s1. it also seems that olivia wasn't harmed by moving from one world to the other, in contrast to the other cortexiphan kids. i think they probably hold off on revealing if she has one specific special power for future plot purposes.
there was clearly something odd about alt-strid, but i was thinking more in the direction of cyborg. perhaps we'll find out more tomorrow!
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Date: 2010-05-19 09:36 am (UTC)I did forget about the light switching off! But I think I'd group that under "universal" powers since it seemed to be one of the first tests the ZFT had for future soldiers (by which I believe they meant Cortexikids *insert hazy memory here!*) So I don't know that that was specific to her either, or just a box wired up to respond to specific improved Cotexiphan perception or something?
As to the traveling from one universe to another, I thought that was because they had been using their powers the night before, especially Cancerman? It was a bit of a lame piece of technobabble from Walter but it seemed that Cancerman's extreme use of his powers kind of screwed the stability of the transfer and it was manifesting by everyone's powers either becoming uncontrollable or ceasing to work. But if Olivia is totally cut off from her power, like her memories of early childhood, then that would explain why she wasn't affected?
I hadn't thought of Alt-strid being a cyborg! That's pretty cool and would make a lot of sense given their technological advancement and use of cyborgs to travel to our world since they're hardier. Cyborgs are obviously Things They Have.
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Date: 2011-02-20 01:21 am (UTC)