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Okay! So, since I'm unable to work on my current vidding project because I had to send my laptop to laptop-hospital (ZOMGS!) for a week, I have instead, apparently, decided to steal my parent's computer and clip the crap out of Fringe in a desperate attempt to convince all of you who are not already watching it to watch it.

This is, needless to say, from my own TERRIBLY BIASED perspective, so if I concentrate more on certain aspects of the show, I'm not sorry. THEY ARE THE AWESOME PARTS! :p Also this is largely spoiler free without context for the clips. The two big "reveals" for the end of season one are left unspoiled, although most of Olivia's backstory as it is revealed through the first season is included because I think it's kind of necessary to her character.

There are a lot of embedded clips here - my intention isn't so much that you watch them all as watch the ones you think will appeal to you.

General overview of the show.

The show itself is kind of like the X-Files in that it has a government agent investigating the unknown and it is a mix of standalones and more mythology-arc type episodes, although, thankfully they are veering more and more towards the mythology type episodes by the end of the second season and the third promises to be mythology-heavy.

Where it differs from the X-Files is in its cast - we have one FBI agent (Olivia Dunham), who is assisted by an expert in "fringe science", Dr Walter Bishop - a brilliant man now suffering from mental illness after being incarcerated in an institution for 17 years and unable to remember much of his previous life's work, and his son, genius and perennial nomad, Peter Bishop. More details about them and the supporting cast follow.

The other major difference is that far from trying to prove the existence of the paranormal and suspecting the government of collusion, strange and bizarre occurences, known as "the pattern" keep occuring and the government want to know what's going on and suspect a giant corporation known as Massive Dynamic of collusion. The real nature of "the pattern", those behind it, and the role of both Massive Dynamic, and Walter Bishop himself in its existence, forms large parts of the show's mythology.

Questions get answered and new questions get raised with a fair amount of frequency, although I can't pretend to you that I always understand exactly 100% what those answers mean, or rather, whether I'm supposed to regard the issue as answered or be suspicious for the future, it at least provides a nice feeling of "getting somewhere".

As I mentioned above, there are two very big reveals at the end of the first season - one about the nature of the world and "the pattern", one about a character, both of which really made me sit up and pay attention so...so far at least, I grade them quite high on the WTF MINDFUCK factor.

Olivia Dunham.

So the main character is FBI Agent Olivia Dunham, who investigates this stuff. She is awesome. She kicks ass action hero style and is probably destined to save the world in the same way as Kara Thrace, but her personality is much more that of Laura Roslin. Olivia has the same quiet stoicism, the same bravery, the same determination and sheer force of will. She suffers and has angst, but never uses that as an excuse to grandstand or act out. She puts her own needs last and gets the job done.

I think this clip kind of tells you everything you need to know about who she is:

password: birthday

stepfather from jane doe on Vimeo.



Another thing I love about Olivia is the way the show handles her and her gender. Occasionally, yes, she ends up stripped to her (sensible) underwear and put in a crazy science experiment. But in general the show is surprisingly good at not sexualising her beyond the fact she is, of course, a very beautiful person. She wears sensible clothes, ties her hair back very plainly, and honestly, is a really interesting example of a woman put into a traditionally male narrative role with very little amendment to her behaviour. While obviously not perfect, I really do believe Fringe has some quite good gender politics and part of that is the fact that Olivia, um, strides about the place like a dude. Yet the fact she wanders around like a man never makes her "butch" in the negative-stereotype sense and once she flat out calls her superior on the fact that being overly emotionally involved in a case is something that is always brought out as an accusation against women, but never against men - when their righteous anger on behalf of the victims is instead seen as motivating them and/or providing them with angst.

ANYWAY - what this means is sometimes Olivia gets to do awesome shit like grab people by the lapels and shake them:

password: lapels

grab your jacket from jane doe on Vimeo.



Or RESCUE HERSELF in truly awesome style. Olivia is frequently seen running around with a gun rescuing many other people. But at the end of one episode, she gets kidnapped, and I think to myself, great, the next episode will probably be all about the rest of the team trying to find her for once. Okay, I can deal. EXCEPT, at the start of the next episode, interspersed with the rest of the team getting ready to try and find and rescue her, WE GET THESE CLIPS. All this happens before the teaser.

password: rescue

rescue myself from jane doe on Vimeo.



Olivia also has a family - a recently-divorced sister and her daughter, Ella. During the second half of the first season they're living with her and I love their family unit like pie. I haven't exactly found the right clips to illustrate it, but basically it becomes increasingly obvious that Olivia has taken on the role of Ella's overworked father to the point that she and her sister hang out drinking late at night discussing which one of them Ella takes after. Ella has totally internalised the "don't bother daddy while he's doing his important job," stuff and in return, Olivia indulges Ella like crazy but also does things like dump her on her assistant when she has to take her for the day. Anyway, have a very sweet clip of naptime.

password: sleepover

asleep on the couch from jane doe on Vimeo.



FINALLY, Olivia has, um, superpowers. Possibly. Maybe. Sort of. This is something of a spoiler, but - and this should give you some idea of the spoiler-level of the actual reveals - I kind of count it as more of a part of her character than a big shocking reveal. So, avert your eyes if you can't stand to know. ;)

Basically, when she was a child, Walter Bishop and his lab partner, William Bell, were the awesome type of folks to conducted drug trials on children, one of whom was Olivia, although she does not find this out until halfway through season one. The perceptive abilities these trials may or may not have granted Olivia are still the subject of a developing plotline, suffice to say something I love about the whole thing is how it affects the relationship between Walter and Olivia. Because neither Olivia, nor Walter, nor the show itself absolves him of what he did, which is explicitly called out as abuse on more than one occasion. And yet, there is the reality of Walter - a broken, sick man, who no longer even recalls much of what he did or why. A man with whom Olivia has formed a bond: she cares about him and is furious with him simultaneously.

password: cantremember

i can't remember from jane doe on Vimeo.



Speaking of Walter, let's move on to him:

Walter Bishop.

As a younger man he was a brilliant scientist funded by the government to invent the bizarre and the impossible, alongside his lab partner, William Bell. While Bell went on to found Massive Dynamic, the largest, most powerful corporation in the world, Walter spend 17 years in a mental institution after the death of his lab assistant in a fire. His incarceration made him mentally unstable, unable to remember many things, most critically, the fact that he may have been responsible for the genesis of many events that form the very dangerous "pattern". While often used for comic relief, the underlying darkness of the fact he may well be responsible for the dire peril the world is facing, and the fact that he is a very broken man, are never forgotten. I've seen criticisms of Walter for trivialising mental illness, but I can't, at this point, find myself agreeing. There is too much power in John Noble's performance. He's easily the best actor in the cast (although none of them are bad), and he breaks my heart usually once an episode.

Here, Walter has had to go back to the mental institution he was at in order to try and get information from another patient.

password: incoherentloon

incoherent lunatic from jane doe on Vimeo.



This clip is more along the lines of the comic relief he provides -

password: rustytank

under water from jane doe on Vimeo.



And here he is in a rather darker mood; I like this clip for two reasons. Firstly because, disturbingly, given the world they have found them in, Walter has a point, and secondly because it's always good to be reminded that Walter can be a scary guy.

password: killed

believe her from jane doe on Vimeo.



A key aspect of Walter's character is his relationship with his son, Peter. Let's move on to Peter.

Peter Bishop.

Peter Bishop is a genius, but very disaffected. He moves from place to place, working every different job under the sun, lying, conning, cheating and charming his way through life. He essentially gets blackmailed into staying with Fringe division because Walter can only be released from hospital into the custody of a direct relative. Peter does not have a good relationship with Walter because he worked through his childhood and spend most of his teenaged and adult life in a mental institution. However, throughout the show, Peter proves to be very good at calming Walter down and getting him to focus, and also begins to repair his relationship with his father, though, similarly to Olivia, the show does a good job of not losing sight of the fact that Peter is really, really angry at his dad in a lot of ways, some of them rational.

I will be honest, while I know Peter is the favourite character of many in the fandom, I don't really see the appeal. So I do apologise for not doing his character justice here. But I know he participates regularly in those heartbreaking Walter moments I mentioned above, so here are a few clips of the two of them.

Their first meeting in 17 years -

password: fatter

fatter from jane doe on Vimeo.



Awwww, don't tell me this ain't kinda heartwarming -

password: fishinglure

fishing from jane doe on Vimeo.



Finally, there are three other characters I need to talk about.

Nina Sharp, Philip Broyles & Astrid Farnsworth.

So I actually really like every one of these characters, and feel kind of bad for shoehorning them in here, but they are more supporting than main cast, much as I might wish otherwise and this post is getting long as it is. Plus, I actually found it quite difficult to find good illustrative clips because I'm not superfamiliar with the series and a lot of their characterisations is built up over time in smaller scenes.

Take Nina Sharp for instance. She is the second-in-command of Massive Dynamic - the shady corporation mentioned above, which seems both vested in helping and in hindering Fringe division. She is middle-aged, morally ambiguous and has a robot arm. In short, she's awesome and she tends to have very charged, bechdel-test passing conversations with Olivia once every episode or so. But all the ones I found were REALLY spoiler, thus you can't have any.

There's also Philip Broyles. He's Olivia's boss and knows more about the pattern than she does, and more about Massive Dynamic than she does and sometimes Olivia gets pissed at Broyles for holding out on her. In the first episode, he is a giant jerk, but turns out pretty awesome and supportive after that. Mostly he stands around looking STERN or occasionally CONCERNED. I won't lie, I very vaguely ship Olivia and Broyles, but mostly I think that's just because I wouldn't mind Broyles getting some more screentime - I think he'd be more interesting if the series let him.

Plus, I do not ship Olivia/Broyles anything like as much as I ship Nina/Broyles. Throughout the first season, those two had fascinating scenes together basically confirming that Massive Dynamic knew as much as the US Government about this crap and they seemed to have an established working relationship. Then, in season two, we get this scene.

I would give you more context, but there is none, and trust me, it's better that way. I honestly just wish that Nina would walk around and snog more random guys like this.

password: randomkiss

smooches from jane doe on Vimeo.



Astrid Farnsworth is a junior FBI agent assigned to assist Olivia. Again, she needs more screentime. And, for the record, I kind of vaguely ship her and Peter just because I think they have actual chemistry, while I see none for the primary ship in fandom (Olivia/Peter). But mostly I love Astrid for other reasons. Including, but not limited to, her relationship with Walter. She ends up stuck in the lab having to deal with his weirdness a lot of the time, and his inability to correctly remember her name (this is a running gag), and Astrid and the actress who plays her, does a really good job of showing, quietly, throughout the background of S1, how they go from being two people forced to work together, with Astrid not really trusting Walter and his dangerous behaviour and demands to the two of them becoming really good friends and really caring about each other. It's a very wonderful, understated, but powerful friendship. Again, much of this is the sum of small moments throughout many episodes, or very spoilery moments, but I think this clip illustrates their friendship quite well, and without context is not too spoilery.

password: brownbetty

walter & betty from jane doe on Vimeo.



AND THAT, MY FRIENDS, IS WHY YOU SHOULD GIVE FRINGE A SHOT. It's the hiatus! You have lots of time to catch up! You know you want to! :D

Date: 2010-06-01 12:50 am (UTC)
ext_61669: (Hybrid Approved)
From: [identity profile] emmiere.livejournal.com
I approve of this! Just in case there was ever confusion. *g*

Vimeo's being ridiculous about letting me watch, but right when I was reading and thinking "Gee, you could rather awesomely illustrate Nina and Broyles with the random kiss", THERE IT WAS! So A+++ and also for Olivia rescuing herself, which is the first time the show made me swoon. <3's

*postpones other thoughts*

Date: 2010-06-01 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
Hooray for approving! :D I'm really sorry the vimeo embeds aren't working - I hope they are for other people!

I'm also glad you think the random kiss is a good illustrator for Nina and Broyles. I do feel it really captures a bit of each of them, but still feel bad for not spamming half a dozen clips of those guys. ;)

As to the rescue - OMGS YES SWOONING. <3

Date: 2010-06-01 10:32 pm (UTC)
ext_61669: (Fringe: Olivia and Walter)
From: [identity profile] emmiere.livejournal.com
Oh, it's working on my other OS now, just not Ubuntu, which I suspect is me and not Vimeo. So it should be good.

And the random kiss is totally illustrative of a lot of interesting character things about them that should happen more often, dammit! ;)

Date: 2010-06-01 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaila.livejournal.com
WHY DON'T I LOVE THIS SHOW MORE??? Not to make this all about me, but when you just bring out the awesome elements, it's actually a very good show. Because I really like everything you have posted here. Possibly because I am not sure that the show knows that the awesome bits are actually the awesome bits? All this Olivia and Olivia and Walter stuff (This: And yet, there is the reality of Walter - a broken, sick man, who no longer even recalls much of what he did or why. and this: Olivia has the same quiet stoicism, the same bravery, the same determination and sheer force of will. and Olivia's switched gender) is really great character stuff that I really like.

EXCEPT, at the start of the next episode, interspersed with the rest of the team getting ready to try and find and rescue her, WE GET THESE CLIPS.

I loooooooved that so much. I'm still not over how pleasantly surprised I was by those scenes. <3

Also, I still really want to know about what Phillip used to do, and to watch him save the day once or twice.

Date: 2010-06-01 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
I DON'T KNOW, LOVE THIS SHOW MORE WITH ME! I WILL RETCON/ERASE FROM EXISTENCE ALL THE CRAPPER PARTS!

I do get your uncertainty about the show. I have had that in the past too, and to an extent, still have it. It's why even though I was consistently pleased and happy with the show in the first season, I didn't full-on jump into it and embrace it. Frankly, I still watch most of this show constantly expecting Peter to take over or for them to do something dumb. But then they got to the end of the second season and despite going through all of S2 expecting awfulness it kind of...didn't materialise? So in my desperation for a show I just decided to assume that this weird almost-tipping-over-the-edge is actually just a REALLY ELABORATE PLOT to keep the show on the air because otherwise Fox would have cancelled it long ago... :p

Which is to say, I actually share a lot of your concerns, and am totally uncertain if that's a reflection on the show or me but have decided, at the moment, to throw caution to the wind and assume the best and throw myself at it. Hopefully it won't end in tears... *bites nails*

Also, I still really want to know about what Phillip used to do, and to watch him save the day once or twice.

I'm fairly sure that was when he was going by the name of Cedric... :p

Date: 2010-06-01 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pellucid.livejournal.com
This is on the list, too! But I think I should probably flail over Alias a bit more first. :)

Date: 2010-06-01 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
YAY! IT SHOULD TOTALLY BE ON THE LIST!

Honestly, though, after the second season of Alias, you're better off just watching the occasional Irina episode and not worrying too much about the rest. They never destroy Sydney, that I recall, but the whole show just because less sense-making and awesome. And frankly, Olivia>Sydney, dammit! :p

(Of course, having reached the end of the second season, Fringe may follow Alias in its nosedive!)

Date: 2010-06-01 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coffeejunkii.livejournal.com
this is awesome! i'm totally sending my flist over here :D

Date: 2010-06-01 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
Yay! I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)

Date: 2010-06-02 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiki-miserychic.livejournal.com
I started watching in season two because of a kick ass Fringe video and all the talk I'd seen online from you and others. I'm so glad I started watching Fringe. I'm plowing my way through season one now and am devouring it for vidmaking as well.

Date: 2010-06-02 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
YAY! VIDS! :D I will almost certainly be making a few Fringe vids once I've finished kicking chaila's ass in VIDWAR, for real.

Season one is a bit more standaloney than season two, but also has more focus on Olivia and Peter is more hilariously tangential.

Date: 2010-06-02 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0mindthegap0.livejournal.com
I've been horribly amused by your raving about Fringe, but not actually willing to give it a shot, and a lot of that's to do with the whole Olivia/gender thing and valuing certain kinds of narratives above others. Hearing that she's more of a Laura Roslin than a Kara Thrace might just be the push to, er, re-examine this position though. : )

I have seen one episode of this on a plane, but it was after a long period of not sleeping, and looked like one of those standalone-ish ones and featured that canadian guy from Dawsons Creek pretty heavily, which is the one you don't like I think? So, it didn't make a very good impression, but that isn't exactly fair.

*moves show back to the 'to consider' pile*

Date: 2010-06-02 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
YAAAAAY! I actually saw an episode of this on a plane for the first time too - it was the Pilot, so I'm not sure if it was the same one you say (was Olivia desperately running around trying to save her boyfriend from getting turned into living jello?) but yes, the Dawson's Creek guy (Peter) is kind of annoying and is the one I don't really care for so much. The thing about Peter is that in any given episode, he'll be around to varying degrees, but usually enough to suggest to you that he's a main character, and the kind of annoying, quippy entitled male lead that is...annoying and quippy.

However, the cumulative effect of actually watching the show is realising how totally irrelevant he really is. Nearly all the good, meaty character stuff goes to Olivia and Walter. All the actual meta-plot related stuff goes to Olivia and Walter. Peter's just...there. At the end of season one, there's a big revelation about him, but still, what it does, is turn Peter into a Macguffin. It's hard to explain without spoiling it but it turns Peter into more of an Object within the narrative rather than an active participant.

It's a very weird state of affairs meaning that at any given point, I'm confused and afraid that they're on the verge of giving Peter actual narrative significance at the expense of the other characters but it never actually materialises, and he continues to be the quest-object, the one who 8 times out of 10 is getting rescued rather than doing the rescuing. Even when, during season two, the above MacGuffin spoiler comes out and there's fallout, we get like...one episode which primarily features Peter's point of view on the issue compared to five that are from Olivia and Walter's.

The best way I can describe it is that it's like he's constantly written with White Male Protagonist entitlement in all his scenes, but...he doesn't usually do White Male Entitled Protagonist things? It's very, very odd. And as I said above, I live in constant fear this will change. But perhaps after two seasons I should learn to trust them? I guess we'll see.

FINALLY ON TO OLIVIA! I'm not sure what your narrative preferences are, so I don't know whether she'd appeal to them or not. I definitely would LOVE if you gave the show a chance, but in the interests of full disclosure, Olivia does inhabit a narrative role that is very similar to Kara Thrace's. It's her personality that is far more closely aligned with Laura's. But...I do think they bear comparison on that front. They both have that same vulnerability under absolute, immovable force of personality. They both step up to the plate and get stuff done. They both have a deep capacity for love that drives them to do whatever is necessary even when it's not pleasant. Neither is emo, even in the face of vast personal tragedy. In short, they are both awesome. :)

(Also, I'm glad you've been amused by my ravings! I was beginning to fear I was just driving my entire flist mad along with me!)

Date: 2010-06-03 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowhuntress.livejournal.com
This is fabulous! Wonderful choice of clips, too! Olivia totally rocks, so I loved seeing all the analysis on her. I also never thought of Olivia as representing Ella's overworked daddy, but you're right!

I'm definitely linking to this on my LJ!

Date: 2010-06-05 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
Thank you! I'm really glad you liked the clips I chose! :) Also yes, it took me a while to pick up on the whole father figure vibe Olivia had going on with Ella but once I saw it it was too adorable not to talk about.

Thanks for the link! And, omg, your icon. <3 I love Chiwetel Ejiofor.

Date: 2010-06-07 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com
ok ok I watch I watch!

HM. Better get Simon to hook me up with some seasons.

Date: 2010-06-08 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
I APPROVE THIS PLAN! TO SIMON'S REPOSITORY OF QUASI-LEGALITY IMMEDIATELY! :D

Date: 2010-06-08 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grimorie.livejournal.com
What a coincidence! I just finished mainlining the first season! And I love it!

Olivia is badass and awesome and just !!! I can't wait to start the second season!

Date: 2010-06-08 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
YAY! New Fringe fans! :D Honestly, while I've been watching since season one, I'm only just starting to like, chat about it online and want to do stuff for it and chat about it, so I kind of have the same NEWFANDOM glee. Enjoy season two! I look forward to hearing what you think of it!

Olivia is AWESOME BADASS and it makes me gleeful whenever new people realise this <3

Date: 2010-06-09 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grimorie.livejournal.com
She is! And she's so understated about it! I'm trying to procure season 2 episodes and I'm so very excited!

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