Bwahahahaa, River Song, the anti-Laura Roslin. I can go with that!
I definitely agree with you that her end becomes both easier and harder to accept as the story goes on. I suppose Moffat may surprise us all and pull her out of there, or give us a definitive answer, but I kind of doubt it.
The only place in your comment we really disagree is that I was kind of okay with the way she dies for him when he doesn't even know of love her yet. This is one of the things I find increasingly easier to handle as the story goes on. Basically just because the continuing story means one day, I'm sure, he will be in a similar position. And because I am kind of in love with the first/last meeting. If she died with him not understanding, and we knew he would never understand, I would feel more the way you do, I think. But as it is...one day he will. He understands a little more every time they meet. And I love the emotion it brings out in River - saving this man that, in some ways, she doesn't love yet either (he's not finished, he's not her doctor), but will. But you know, personal takes on stuff.
As to Eleven running away, it is rude, but to me, at least, kind of endearing, mainly because I think he's terrified not of her timey-wimeyness, not really of his future, whatever he tells Amy, but of the enormity of her importance knowing what it'll cost her. He tries to run because he's frightened, yes, but - and again, personal interpretation - I found his fear so much less about him, or at least as selfishly so, as Ten running from Jack, and so much more about the enormity of it. About trying to postpone the inevitable because all he knows, so far, is she dies for him and he fails to (really) save her.
But I do accept your points as a valid criticism. Just one I am happily managing to ignore by sticking my fingers in my ears and singing loudly... :p (Whut, it worked REALLY WELL with BSG right up until 4.5!)
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Date: 2010-07-16 08:55 pm (UTC)I definitely agree with you that her end becomes both easier and harder to accept as the story goes on. I suppose Moffat may surprise us all and pull her out of there, or give us a definitive answer, but I kind of doubt it.
The only place in your comment we really disagree is that I was kind of okay with the way she dies for him when he doesn't even know of love her yet. This is one of the things I find increasingly easier to handle as the story goes on. Basically just because the continuing story means one day, I'm sure, he will be in a similar position. And because I am kind of in love with the first/last meeting. If she died with him not understanding, and we knew he would never understand, I would feel more the way you do, I think. But as it is...one day he will. He understands a little more every time they meet. And I love the emotion it brings out in River - saving this man that, in some ways, she doesn't love yet either (he's not finished, he's not her doctor), but will. But you know, personal takes on stuff.
As to Eleven running away, it is rude, but to me, at least, kind of endearing, mainly because I think he's terrified not of her timey-wimeyness, not really of his future, whatever he tells Amy, but of the enormity of her importance knowing what it'll cost her. He tries to run because he's frightened, yes, but - and again, personal interpretation - I found his fear so much less about him, or at least as selfishly so, as Ten running from Jack, and so much more about the enormity of it. About trying to postpone the inevitable because all he knows, so far, is she dies for him and he fails to (really) save her.
But I do accept your points as a valid criticism. Just one I am happily managing to ignore by sticking my fingers in my ears and singing loudly... :p (Whut, it worked REALLY WELL with BSG right up until 4.5!)