YES! That's EXACTLY how I feel! This is the vid I made because I wanted to punch him. I kind of go into this a bit in my reply to nicole_anell above, but it's fascinating to me the different responses people are having and how so many of them think of it as more about Six when I always, always thought of it as a Baltar vid about how he was completely unable to cope with reality as expressed by HeadSix's existence and his preference for her over anything real.
I mean, I don't mind the different responses. I like them. It's awesome. It's just that your reaction is perhaps closest to mine.
I completely and totally agree with your point about Baltar's guilt not counting because dude, he invented a WHOLE NOTHER PERSON to project it onto. And even if she really is something more than a manifestation of his subconscious, she's still not "just a cylon"; she's something that was put there capable of manipulating him in the exact way he responds to being manipulated so all those points about how frakked that makes him are still accurate.
I mean, on the flip side, HeadSix is awesome. And on the flip side I think one of the most brilliant character ideas they ever had for Baltar was (at least up until 4.0) to keep him sympathetic via his comedy relief and just utter out-of-his-depthness. But...he's a human horror show.
I think a lot of my beta-vented angst (many emails were exchanged with me worrying the vid was unclear) was because I am so...messy re: my feelings about him, which is probably why I approached him through Six.
I think that what really happened is that The Hub destroyed my sympathy for Baltar to the point that he wounded me. Like I didn't just want to walk away from the character I was hurt by him, like Laura was hurt by him. So to me, this is an epic, angsty love-story with creepy, creepy, punch-worthy undertones. But that's specific to my reaction to Baltar. And for people who haven't reached that point with him, I imagine that the terror, the naivety, the fear of Baltar still shine through. Because...that's the thing; those are part of Baltar too. He's not tidy.
And now I'm babbling and haven't even said, THANK YOU for the great feedback and for saying what I wanted to say in the vid so much more articulately than I managed. ;)
HOORAY FOR THE NATIONAL! (It's all totally your fault for introducing me to them, btw...)
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Date: 2008-12-18 11:41 am (UTC)I mean, I don't mind the different responses. I like them. It's awesome. It's just that your reaction is perhaps closest to mine.
I completely and totally agree with your point about Baltar's guilt not counting because dude, he invented a WHOLE NOTHER PERSON to project it onto. And even if she really is something more than a manifestation of his subconscious, she's still not "just a cylon"; she's something that was put there capable of manipulating him in the exact way he responds to being manipulated so all those points about how frakked that makes him are still accurate.
I mean, on the flip side, HeadSix is awesome. And on the flip side I think one of the most brilliant character ideas they ever had for Baltar was (at least up until 4.0) to keep him sympathetic via his comedy relief and just utter out-of-his-depthness. But...he's a human horror show.
I think a lot of my beta-vented angst (many emails were exchanged with me worrying the vid was unclear) was because I am so...messy re: my feelings about him, which is probably why I approached him through Six.
I think that what really happened is that The Hub destroyed my sympathy for Baltar to the point that he wounded me. Like I didn't just want to walk away from the character I was hurt by him, like Laura was hurt by him. So to me, this is an epic, angsty love-story with creepy, creepy, punch-worthy undertones. But that's specific to my reaction to Baltar. And for people who haven't reached that point with him, I imagine that the terror, the naivety, the fear of Baltar still shine through. Because...that's the thing; those are part of Baltar too. He's not tidy.
And now I'm babbling and haven't even said, THANK YOU for the great feedback and for saying what I wanted to say in the vid so much more articulately than I managed. ;)
HOORAY FOR THE NATIONAL! (It's all totally your fault for introducing me to them, btw...)