BSG Comics: The Final Five #3
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beccatoriaYOU GUYS. YOU GUYS THIS ICON HAS NEVER BEEN MORE INAPPROPRIATE.
Srsly. I died laughing. Also, despite the fact I might have to love this issue as the best thing ever, it is, unfortunately, the issue where I have to stop hoping I can make it personal canon. What can I say? Among other things they made Sam a hobo. No, really.
So, issue three introduces us to our actual Final Five, finally.
I'm going to recount this linearly - near as I can tell - rather than the way it was revealed throughout the issue.
So. Michael Tigh becomes the leader of the Thirteenth Tribe, and, although this is never clarified, I'm assuming given the timescales, by the time they GET to Earth (under the guidance of Pythia-who-came-back-from-the-dead-and-is-now-Aurora-masquerading-as-Pythia-but-Michael-Tigh-doesn't-care) it's just shy of two thousand years ago. Whereas the exile from Kobol was 3,000 years ago. I assume this is because of the whole travelling at subliminal speed thing.
So the issue opens with Michael Tigh and John Cavil (the dude the thirteenth tribe granted resurrection as they ran from Kobol because he tried to save Pythia) as extremely old men, like, almost dying old. At various points there's allusions that their lifespans have been extended beyond ordinary lengths by technology (though NOT resurrection, which I'll get to). So I don't know how long since they landed on Earth but basically, the 13th Tribe aren't there for that long since these are the guys who settled it eighty years ago or whatever and we're about to see the nuketacular apocalypse.
Pythia is the reason that the 13th Tribe can reproduce. Pythia helped them resequence their genome or whatever it was and fixed that problem. But if they resurrect, then that reverts and they can't have kids, so that combined with the fact that Head Six was telling him to do it meant that Michael Tigh banned resurrection tech outright and also was like, Chief President Dictator for Life.
Michael Tigh and Pythia's son is SAUL TIGH.
Yes, people. Season Four Kara Thrace is SAUL TIGH'S MOTHER.
Just...just think about that for a minute. Seriously. Just think.
HIS MOTHER.
Yes, if you're wondering, I did die laughing. But it's all right, I resurrected. 'Cept now of course I can't have kids. Which I'd say is a tidy way of explaining that whole thing except LIAM. (Or, you know, Hera too).
Maybe Tigh is special because he's HALF GOD.
*dies again*
WTF people, just...WTF.
I love it. I absolutely love it and it's a total shame I can't canonise this thing in my personal shrine of becca-canon awesome.
So, um, where was I?
Oh yes, Pythia dies when Saul is really young so he doesn't remember her, but John Cavil does and says that she begged Michael to save her but he wouldn't so Pythia died screaming and stuff and Cavil was all HARDENED into wanting to BRING BACK RESURRECTION and shit.
So Cavil is the head of Cavil Cybernetics that has built a shitload of centurions, which are now rebelling all over the city, and is "sekritly" bankrolling his daughter Ellen's lab (where Galen and Tory are scientists too) to rebuild resurrection.
Michael Tigh is ancient and has a stroke and dies halfway through the comic.
So Saul Tigh, son of the dictator for life chief president of Earth and Ellen Tigh, daughter of the biggest corporate conglomerate CEO are totally SECRETLY MARRIED. It's JUST LIKE ROMEO AND JULIET except old and creepy and far too graphically drawn for my liking.
Cavil is impatient with the progress of resurrection and tells Tory and Galen to move onto live trials, so they go and entice guitar-playing Hobo Sam into their lab and then Tory shoots him and Galen is like WTF (as if, you know, killing him some other way would TOTALLY be more civilised) and Tory's like, I'M IN A HURRY. And Galen says that this does not turn him on. And Tory is wearing a business suit with a WAISTCOAT. I don't even know, people. A waistcoat.
So Sam wakes up, and, um, that's the last we see of him so far.
Then Saul Tigh's dad dies and he's all angsty and like, "I COULD HAVE SAVED HIM!" and Head Six shows up and is like, Yup, you fucked up big time. So Tigh is all upset by this because she was always the one that told them they had to destroy resurrection. And Six basically says YEAH if you'd actually DONE that, but you let your girlfriend rebuild it under your nose and now your robots are going crazy and frankly this whole place is a lost cause so all I can do is save a couple of you and try again next time and for that I need resurrection.
Basically Head Six saw it was going downhill fast and went and lead Ellen onto the right path to rebuild resurrection. Tigh is somewhat narked about this, understandably.
(Again I would like to just pause here and point out that Pythia/Aurora/FutureKara, Michael Tigh and Saul Tigh can apparently ALL see Head Six since Saul doesn't react like he's never seen her before or anything. WTF must family dinners have been like at that house? Did they get her to babysit? Go to the movies with them? People. Saul Tigh is Half God, Half Robot being babysat by a Religious Vision. I'm just saying.)
Anyway at that point, Cavil tries to assassinate Saul Tigh but his gunman misses and everything goes nuts and Cavil's totally random plan was, now that resurrection's online, to nuke shit and thin the human population - I guess only resurrecting the people he likes or something. Except when she finds this out, Ellen's shocked that he'd do something like that and shoots him in the head. Then asks Tigh to meet her at the lab where she has "something to do first". I'm gonna assume turning off Daddy's resurrection capacity or something (we see him earlier looking at his replacement body and bitching it's so old and Ellen's like, we'll fix it later.)
At which point we go into the flashback scenes we saw of Tyrol in the market and Tigh finding Ellen and stuff. For the record, Tory seems to be in some sort of office and Sam is back outside on a street corner busking Bob Dylan Hobo Style.
And...that's the end of the issue.
I swear, I did not ingest any hallucinogenic substances before I read it.
So I'll just...
You're NEVER, EVER going to be able to look at this icon the same way again, ARE YOU?
Srsly. I died laughing. Also, despite the fact I might have to love this issue as the best thing ever, it is, unfortunately, the issue where I have to stop hoping I can make it personal canon. What can I say? Among other things they made Sam a hobo. No, really.
So, issue three introduces us to our actual Final Five, finally.
I'm going to recount this linearly - near as I can tell - rather than the way it was revealed throughout the issue.
So. Michael Tigh becomes the leader of the Thirteenth Tribe, and, although this is never clarified, I'm assuming given the timescales, by the time they GET to Earth (under the guidance of Pythia-who-came-back-from-the-dead-and-is-now-Aurora-masquerading-as-Pythia-but-Michael-Tigh-doesn't-care) it's just shy of two thousand years ago. Whereas the exile from Kobol was 3,000 years ago. I assume this is because of the whole travelling at subliminal speed thing.
So the issue opens with Michael Tigh and John Cavil (the dude the thirteenth tribe granted resurrection as they ran from Kobol because he tried to save Pythia) as extremely old men, like, almost dying old. At various points there's allusions that their lifespans have been extended beyond ordinary lengths by technology (though NOT resurrection, which I'll get to). So I don't know how long since they landed on Earth but basically, the 13th Tribe aren't there for that long since these are the guys who settled it eighty years ago or whatever and we're about to see the nuketacular apocalypse.
Pythia is the reason that the 13th Tribe can reproduce. Pythia helped them resequence their genome or whatever it was and fixed that problem. But if they resurrect, then that reverts and they can't have kids, so that combined with the fact that Head Six was telling him to do it meant that Michael Tigh banned resurrection tech outright and also was like, Chief President Dictator for Life.
Michael Tigh and Pythia's son is SAUL TIGH.
Yes, people. Season Four Kara Thrace is SAUL TIGH'S MOTHER.
Just...just think about that for a minute. Seriously. Just think.
HIS MOTHER.
Yes, if you're wondering, I did die laughing. But it's all right, I resurrected. 'Cept now of course I can't have kids. Which I'd say is a tidy way of explaining that whole thing except LIAM. (Or, you know, Hera too).
Maybe Tigh is special because he's HALF GOD.
*dies again*
WTF people, just...WTF.
I love it. I absolutely love it and it's a total shame I can't canonise this thing in my personal shrine of becca-canon awesome.
So, um, where was I?
Oh yes, Pythia dies when Saul is really young so he doesn't remember her, but John Cavil does and says that she begged Michael to save her but he wouldn't so Pythia died screaming and stuff and Cavil was all HARDENED into wanting to BRING BACK RESURRECTION and shit.
So Cavil is the head of Cavil Cybernetics that has built a shitload of centurions, which are now rebelling all over the city, and is "sekritly" bankrolling his daughter Ellen's lab (where Galen and Tory are scientists too) to rebuild resurrection.
Michael Tigh is ancient and has a stroke and dies halfway through the comic.
So Saul Tigh, son of the dictator for life chief president of Earth and Ellen Tigh, daughter of the biggest corporate conglomerate CEO are totally SECRETLY MARRIED. It's JUST LIKE ROMEO AND JULIET except old and creepy and far too graphically drawn for my liking.
Cavil is impatient with the progress of resurrection and tells Tory and Galen to move onto live trials, so they go and entice guitar-playing Hobo Sam into their lab and then Tory shoots him and Galen is like WTF (as if, you know, killing him some other way would TOTALLY be more civilised) and Tory's like, I'M IN A HURRY. And Galen says that this does not turn him on. And Tory is wearing a business suit with a WAISTCOAT. I don't even know, people. A waistcoat.
So Sam wakes up, and, um, that's the last we see of him so far.
Then Saul Tigh's dad dies and he's all angsty and like, "I COULD HAVE SAVED HIM!" and Head Six shows up and is like, Yup, you fucked up big time. So Tigh is all upset by this because she was always the one that told them they had to destroy resurrection. And Six basically says YEAH if you'd actually DONE that, but you let your girlfriend rebuild it under your nose and now your robots are going crazy and frankly this whole place is a lost cause so all I can do is save a couple of you and try again next time and for that I need resurrection.
Basically Head Six saw it was going downhill fast and went and lead Ellen onto the right path to rebuild resurrection. Tigh is somewhat narked about this, understandably.
(Again I would like to just pause here and point out that Pythia/Aurora/FutureKara, Michael Tigh and Saul Tigh can apparently ALL see Head Six since Saul doesn't react like he's never seen her before or anything. WTF must family dinners have been like at that house? Did they get her to babysit? Go to the movies with them? People. Saul Tigh is Half God, Half Robot being babysat by a Religious Vision. I'm just saying.)
Anyway at that point, Cavil tries to assassinate Saul Tigh but his gunman misses and everything goes nuts and Cavil's totally random plan was, now that resurrection's online, to nuke shit and thin the human population - I guess only resurrecting the people he likes or something. Except when she finds this out, Ellen's shocked that he'd do something like that and shoots him in the head. Then asks Tigh to meet her at the lab where she has "something to do first". I'm gonna assume turning off Daddy's resurrection capacity or something (we see him earlier looking at his replacement body and bitching it's so old and Ellen's like, we'll fix it later.)
At which point we go into the flashback scenes we saw of Tyrol in the market and Tigh finding Ellen and stuff. For the record, Tory seems to be in some sort of office and Sam is back outside on a street corner busking Bob Dylan Hobo Style.
And...that's the end of the issue.
I swear, I did not ingest any hallucinogenic substances before I read it.
So I'll just...
You're NEVER, EVER going to be able to look at this icon the same way again, ARE YOU?
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Date: 2009-06-04 05:15 pm (UTC)SAM WAS A SCIENTIST YOU MORANS.
Kara/not!Kara/whatever is Tigh's MOMMY.
Oddly, I am more stuck on Sam then anything else. It makes me sad.
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Date: 2009-06-04 05:27 pm (UTC)I'm sorry, but I have to correct you:
SAM WAS A SUPERSCIENTIST ROCK STAR, YOU MORONS!
I mean really. EVERYONE knows that!
(I was very sad about Sam's lack of Rock Star Science Awesome too.)
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Date: 2009-06-04 06:02 pm (UTC)Must start using "wanna resequence my genome?" as a pickup line.
It's JUST LIKE ROMEO AND JULIET except old and creepy and far too graphically drawn for my liking.
Cavil is impatient with the progress of resurrection and tells Tory and Galen to move onto live trials, so they go and entice guitar-playing Hobo Sam into their lab and then Tory shoots him and Galen is like WTF (as if, you know, killing him some other way would TOTALLY be more civilised) and Tory's like, I'M IN A HURRY. And Galen says that this does not turn him on. And Tory is wearing a business suit with a WAISTCOAT. I don't even know, people. A waistcoat.
OMG this is almost as bad as that tie-in novel which had Kara falling for some cylon-virus infected rock star and going to a concert with Lee and getting all ridiculously blushy about things. We had such good times laughing at that thing. Ah the crack.
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Date: 2009-06-04 06:21 pm (UTC)I would say the comics here have a bit more wiggle room since we don't what these characters were like back on Kobol and Earth.
Ya know, unless they TOLD US their OCCUPATION ON SCREEN.
This has made me a mite cranky. Although Kara/Pythia/whatcha being Tigh's mother will NEVER GET OLD.
I guess we won't find out who Sam the SCIENTIST/ROCK STAR wrote the song for. My fanwank had been it was angel/head Kara/Pythia...okay the slashes are out of hand.
I'll just focus on KARA IS TIGH'S MOMMY.
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Date: 2009-06-04 08:03 pm (UTC)*checks*
STILL NOT OLD.
...I'm seriously considering trying to use that clip where Tigh asks Boxey where his "mommy" is to create some kind of disturbed five second video scene. o_O
Probably won't happen though since I have no idea wtf I'd do next...
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Date: 2009-06-04 07:46 pm (UTC)AHAHAHAHA! Yes.
I remember that book too! It's so weird, I can completely understand how this seems like crack on THAT level and, well, it IS. But somehow, it's so CLOSE to being just pure awesome I really wish I could take it seriously.
I'm not explaining myself well. I guess what I mean is this feels like crack that, if it was in a universe of canon I liked I would EAT WITH A SPOON. Instead it taunts me by being so srsly flagrantly ridiculous in a universe that's one step outside of a canon I can cope with. Like, basically it validates the laws of the 4.5verse just a tiny bit too much. Or something. Can't really explain why.
PLUS ROBOT SPORTS STAR ROCK LEGEND SUPER SCIENTIST DAMMIT!
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Date: 2009-06-04 07:56 pm (UTC)ROBOT SPORTS STAR ROCK LEGEND SUPER SCIENTIST
must be ICONED!
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Date: 2009-06-04 06:25 pm (UTC)I don't think I can actually believe this happened until I see it myself. Don't let me down comic book shop! Er...I'll resurrect too if the laughter kills me right?
Also, Sam WAS a rockstar/scientist DAMMIT! Silly crack comic.
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Date: 2009-06-04 07:51 pm (UTC)IS IT A ROCK STAR? IS IT A SUPERSCIENTIST? IS IT A SPORTS STAR? NOOO, IT'S SAMUEL T. ANDERS!
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Date: 2009-06-04 06:43 pm (UTC)I'm still confused...Pythia was Pythia, and then Pythia was Aurora in disguise. But was Kara a Pythia lookalike whose form Aurora took after she died, or was Kara always Aurora using Pythia's form?
I love your comic recaps.
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Date: 2009-06-04 07:58 pm (UTC)He was a robot superscientist rockgod sports star. That is far, far less silly.
As to Pythia/Kara/Aurora, the way I understand it is:
Pythia is human. She dies. Aurora takes her form - although possibly not to the degree that she forgets she is really Aurora since she helps them resequence the genome and stuff - anyway, she marries Michael Tigh and has a son named Saul.
Thousands of years later, Kara is human (or, as we know, REALLY a hybrid!). She dies. Aurora takes her form and memories and convinces herself that she really IS Kara. Unlike Pythiaurora who got a screaming death (apparently) Karaurora just pigeons off in a puff of logic.
So it's like...two separate events where Aurora took a dead person's form.
Where it gets confusing is why Pythia and Kara look so much alike. But then Magnus Baltar looks a hell of a lot like Gaius. So I'm inclined to say that that's a trick of religion and the cycle of time. All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again, the story changes, the players remain the same, as Leoben quotes. Whether that's literal reincarnation, mystic symbolism or random chance, I'm not sure and I'm not sure the comic can, or even should, explain?
Anyway, that's what I think at least?
And I'm glad you like the recaps!
ONLY ONE MORE TO GO! I hope it's CRACKTACULAR.
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Date: 2009-06-04 09:35 pm (UTC)Anyway, I think your explanations have impressed on me that there's no way I'm taking any of this as canon. But as crack!fic, it's fantastic in a very Ninth Doctor kind of way. :-)
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Date: 2009-06-04 10:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-04 10:10 pm (UTC)WHAT. WHAT.
WHAT.
(Also, why the heck would HeadSix still be in the form of... HeadSix? Like, how does that make sense at all?)
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Date: 2009-06-04 10:42 pm (UTC)And you will start daydreaming of scene where Kara shockingly reveals "I am your mother!" before trying to get Tigh to commit mutiny with her so they can RULE GALACTICA AS MOTHER AND SON.
Except in the end, she throws Adama out an airlock because he won't stop frying Tigh with some jumper cables from the deck gang in an effort to reboot him.
Seriously, you will never regret knowing this.
(Um, to be vaaaaguely serious for a second, I imagine that we have the Head Six thing a little backwards and that much as Ellen made Number One in the image of his father, Tigh made Number Six in the image of his religious vision. Though how the hell that explains Baltar I don't know; I'm guessing that the head people can appear as anything they like, with Baltar and Head Six it was just coincidentally either her real form or one she'd used many times before.)
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Date: 2009-06-04 11:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-05 04:37 am (UTC)Aw, I'm actually a little disappointed that I can't take the comics as canon. But your recap is pure gold.
(Again I would like to just pause here and point out that Pythia/Aurora/FutureKara, Michael Tigh and Saul Tigh can apparently ALL see Head Six since Saul doesn't react like he's never seen her before or anything. WTF must family dinners have been like at that house? Did they get her to babysit? Go to the movies with them?
*chokes*
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Date: 2009-06-06 05:24 pm (UTC)I like Sam as a scientist rockstar. It ties in nicely with his role on The Big Bang Theory.
I've been thinking of Kara as Atlanta while I'm writing one of my fics for