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So, I read the summary [livejournal.com profile] asta77 posted of the podcast for the Eye of Jupiter. Apparently Ron Moore believes that Kara is somewhat like Ellen Tigh and that she really does sleep around and cheat on Sam. I refuse to believe this. It's just wrong. Not because I have some wonderfully idealised image of a virtuous Starbuck but because this is just not any kind of Starbuck I know. Not that she'd never cheat, just that she'd do so casually and frequently. Was she cheating on Zak? I can't get my head around that. I don't want to make value judgements about people who do live their lives like that, but no. Not this character. I believe she's been to a place where she was willing to watch her friend thrown out an airlock so she could feel better. I believe she's been to a place where she fell in love - just a little - with the man who tortured her and killed billions of her people. I don't believe this. I am a brick wall about this. I am an immovable. My mind will not accept it. It is not true.

The cylon love triangle is very interesting now it appears D'Anna and Caprica are in love with each other too. Of course it makes my heart bleed even more for Caprica to see her dumped twice. What else it brings up for me is -

Cylon notions of property, fluidity of identity, communal existance as evidenced by all the naked Boomers. I guess polyamory fits quite well into that model. And it was refreshing to see that my initial assumption - that Caprica was allowing D'Anna into her relationship with Baltar because she had no choice - was wrong. Or at least part wrong. Because even if she accepted it because she felt (correctly) that Gaius was sliding away, as an attempt to bring him closer to her that backfired (as she says), she also love's D'Anna. She said it and I believe her. I also believe D'Anna loves her back. Though, that leads to my next point.

D'Anna, are you doing this for the power trip? I mean, I think you think you love them both, but you also love to be in control. So does it make sense that your romantic entanglements must also be grander than others? Yeah. There's something in this. She's definitely the central point of this triangle, not Baltar.

Date: 2006-12-20 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com
I agree that having Kara sleep around makes no sense in terms of her personality. I had figured that Anders was either lying or he overheard Kara's declaration of love to Leoben and he jumped to a incredibly horrible conclusion.

I find the cylon threesome endlessly fascinating. But now that Cap has been dumped, what next? Will she be the Judas to Baltar's Jesus?

Date: 2006-12-20 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
or he overheard Kara's declaration of love to Leoben and he jumped to a incredibly horrible conclusion.

Now there's an interesting idea...

And honestly, I prefer the idea of Cap!Six being Jesus to Baltar's Judas (did he just betray her with a "kiss" if "kiss" were a euphamism for knocking boots with Three?) but that's mostly because I like her more. While I think there's good precedent for a Baltar-Judas connection, I don't really see Six as all that messianic.

Date: 2006-12-20 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asta77.livejournal.com
I don't believe this. I am a brick wall about this. I am an immovable. My mind will not accept it. It is not true.

::nods head vigorously in agreement::

I'd say I'd join you in the land of denial, but there is nothing to deny because it didn't happen. I'd really like to know when she had the time or inclination on New Caprica. When Sam was out playing pyramid she was having guys over? She's the one who would have needed the antibiotics then. ;p

Date: 2006-12-20 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
I'd say I'd join you in the land of denial, but there is nothing to deny because it didn't happen.

Exactly. It didn't. Ever. And it's not like you or I are huge Kara fans. In fact, we don't even want Lee to end up with her!

I've got to be honest, I usually avoid trying to make judgements about writers' issues, because I tend to try and avoid feeling like or acting like I "know" famous dudes, but...I'm starting to wonder if this is one of RDM's. With Ellen Tigh and Tigh is was good characterisation and it worked and was suprisingly sweet. But now, his obsession with variations on the phrase "tomcat around" and his bizarre notion that Kara's character reads like she'd do that - and his seeming obsession with marriages that make that compromise (he alludes to Dee being in a similar position to Anders in accepting a marriage that might very well include cheating)...I dunno. It's weird.

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