BSG: The Woman, King

[beccatoria]

Okay, first, the title. Why? Just…why? What is it supposed to mean? Apparently there’s supposed to be a comma in it (see above) but it still doesn’t make any sense.


I’m convinced there’s a fantastic episode hiding in here somewhere. They had a brilliant set-up. Great to see the return of civilians on Galactica and to see Helo’s new job. The set-up allowed for some very subtle commentary on minority beliefs, on the ethics of dealing with a group who refuses medical treatment, on the ethics of treating people against their request, on the fire-cracker situation where failure of medication to save someone can be misconstrued as medication causing death. About the ethics of selectively offering life-saving treatment to those more likely to continue to comply with it and therefore recover. Saggitarion racism struck me immediately as a chance to explore not only racism, but a chance to explore "invisible" isms – discrimination against gay people or a religious minority – where a person’s affiliation is not necessarily readily apparent (there does not appear to be a clear visible difference of skin colour or even clothing style). The parallels between this and the fear that anyone could be a cylon is obvious. This is a chance to explore the way no one wants to acknowledge that racism exists in "modern, western" society because it’s too ugly. It’s easier to not mention it until the object of your discrimination is on your doorstep, threatening to infect you with the plague. It’s easy for Adama to look the other way in the middle of a crisis because "that kind of thing doesn’t happen". People want to make excuses. A way to approach racism the way we end up dealing with it now – not like the past where is was just “normal” to be blatant about how X race were lazy and ugly, no, now it gets couched and covered by excuses. "I’m not being racist, but..." is a completely redundant and hypocritical way to start a sentence.

This was a great show to tackle these issues. Because the Saggitarions were clearly the victims of racism, with the establishment turning a blind eye to their needs, but also genuinely putting others in danger due to their cultural issues. Now that’s a level of discussion worthy of this show – that’s Flesh & Bone level reversal.

Unfortunately, a lot of that gets undercut by the simplistic hate-motivated killings perpetrated by Dr Robert. The parallels with Black Market are not unfounded – both tackle worthy issues, but ultimately undercut any deeper meaning by delivering a pat, “deep” ending. Phelan is made to be a child molester (or to facilitate child molesters) so that he’s “bad” enough to get shot, thereby invalidating any weight or interest his arguments may otherwise have had. Similarly, Robert is made to be an angry hate-filled racist. He’s not simply withholding meds from Saggitarions or providing them with substandard care, or even euthanizing them on the sly (all horrific, race-based things, which would still, I feel, have been easier to incorporate into a story of a Doctor forced to make desperate decisions in the face of overwhelming medical shortages), no, he’s actively killing them because he hates them and thinks they’re worthless scumbags. Which, again, puts things much more squarely into right/wrong categories than I’m traditionally happy with in this show.

Actually, I’d argue that this episode does a better job than Black Market because they manage a fairly subtle discussion on the topic until the apprehension of Robert. Though the resolution really does wreck it.


It would have been interesting to see the internal racial conflicts and underlying racism in our main characters if it didn’t feel so ‘out of nowhere’. I mean, they’ve established that Saggitarion is looked down on, but not to this extent. I know that perhaps it’s just because suddenly it’s an issue. Case in point: I’d heard that people were racist against Polish people, but never really saw any of it until I moved to the city I’m in now. There are loads of Polish people (to the point that there’s a Polish supermarket across the road from my house and adverts in the job paper in Polish) and…yeah, it’s really surprising how much crap I hear people talking about them. And I’m fairly certain that it wasn’t like this before the recent changes in European law made it easier for people from Poland (and other countries) to move to the UK. Basically, until now, I was never in a situation to see anti-Polish racism. So perhaps we never really saw Saggitarion racism among the Galactica crew because they weren’t confronted by the "unwashed masses" before. They just had to deal with “good” Saggitarions like Dee who’d seen the light…

Still, it felt a little jarring – not in a "I’m shocked these people could be racist!" way, but in a "where did THIS come from," way. Like in the never-before-seen-previouslies, I just can’t buy Gaeta being anything less than totally politically correct.


I’m wondering about the Chief. This is the second time we’ve seen him getting more than slightly drunk at a bar without his wife. Also, I was confused by his disdain for the Saggitarions as religious freaks because…isn’t he Geminese? Aren’t they like the fundamentalists of the fleet? I’ve concluded that if the Geminese are the Born-Again Fundamentalists, then the Saggitarions are the Gnostic Pagans, which I actually think is a cool comparison. I quite liked the throwaway line that they don’t believe in medicine because both the body and the mind are illusions. Very questioning of reality, very reminiscent of reality-as-prison. Very Gnostic, from my limited understanding of that term.


One good upshot of the sudden attack of racism was seeing Dee’s reaction. Oh, boy that was painful. Put up a front, bitch about them so they don’t bitch about you, and it’s probably not all even faked. I’m not a member of any minority that’s as marginalized and attacked as the Saggitarions, and I’m so grateful for that. Though I do sympathise with Dee’s attitude in a small way, being an American, with no accent, raised in the UK. I hear a lot of shit spoken about the US, and most of it is hypocritical BS, to be honest. But the choice I get is, a) shut up and listen to it and don’t make a fuss, b) point out the hypocrisy and look like I’m defending something I’m probably madder about than they are, c) join in so they think I’m one of the “good ones” or d) try to mollify them and apologise (when it’s not my fault).

So yeah, I get where Dee is coming from a little. I even get the anger. Why should everyone else get to be madder than you when it’s your people who are behaving in a way you believe to be self-destructive, or who are being manipulated and lied to, abandoning principles you believe in.

What I’m not sure about is why Dee suddenly has this hate-on for Cottle. I mean, choosing to visit a different Doctor (who is also in charge of the meds for the disease you have – though…how did she catch it?), that I can understand. But protesting that she doesn’t want to see Cottle when she’s so sick she can barely stand, um, why?


Another thing this episode had the potential to do marvelously was the politics of the racist. Why these people believe the things they do. Not just in terms of medical professionals like Cottle nursing anger because these traditions mean they have to watch patients die, but people like Athena, desperate to find someone other than them to be a target. People like Adama who just don’t have the time because they have an overcrowded, overworked Battlestar to deal with, and who end up racist by omission.


My Crazy Love For Tigh has been somewhat restored by this episode. I still don’t believe he’s fit for duty, and it was nice to see his unprofessional, dangerous, loyal-only-to-his-own streak rear its beautiful head. Plus Helo decked him, which was not as awesome as when Roslin slapped him, but I’ll take what I can get.


I actually thought that Helo did a decent job of carrying the episode. I was not as put-off by his way of acting “anger/distress” which usually involves making a face like something smells really bad, as I usually am. (And I’m being unkind. I’ve always enjoyed watching Helo and think that Tahmoh Pennikett is a decent actor.)

It was nice, yet surreal, to see Hera with her actual parents. I wonder if being passed between three different families before the age of two will affect her. I honestly wouldn’t have minded seeing more of their interactions as a family simply because they only JUST got her back (what WAS wrong with her on the Basestar?) Who do they leave her with when they’re both at work? Is there a crèche? Would they honestly feel comfortable leaving their half-cylon kid with strangers?

It was nice to see Helo asserting his identity separate to Athena. Though I’m glad that they didn’t include the cut scene at the end (was there a longer version of that online?). There could be no good outcome to that conversation, so while I respect Helo’s desire to confess, I’m not sure how they could have resolved it without the cop out of fading to black or without making me relive my confusion all over again. You know, respecting Helo wanting to be a stand-up guy, but thinking, really dude, do you have any idea of the consequences of your actions? Actually that’s one of the reasons I’m glad Helo WAS such a stand up freight-train of moral authority in this episode. After the stunt he pulled killing those Cylons, he sort of has to be to maintain any kind of integrity.


IMAGINARY GAIUS IS BACK! I was so glad to see him! And how intriguing his words to Caprica (oh Tricia Helfer, I love your acting). She wants to be a human while Baltar wants to be a cylon. Oh, irony! Also, Roslin, watching her make out with her imaginary boyfriend through tinted glass…totally voyeuristic and slightly creepy! The most intriguing revelation of the scene though – they’re capturing her imaginary conversations. Now that has some connotations.


I agree with Roslin about Zarek. If he really is scared and about what he’s advocating. I can’t understand how this fits into his character. He’s always been about the revolution. He’s always been about destroying the status quo and starting again. I find the idea that he’s suddenly changed his mind, become less naïve, and more willing to control the people “for their own good” to be…disappointing. I liked him as extremely principled. I can’t work out how this idea fits into any of his principles. Even the Circle fit into his idea of a new order rising from the ashes. That was the point – he was acting violently behind the scenes to make it possible (which I suppose does betray some controlling mass-decision making tendencies). If anything, Zarek is Fight Club. Which is a great and often misunderstood book. It’s not about asserting your identity with violence – it’s about destroying yourself – and everything else, because you’re trapped by history, boxed into this nonsensical society we’ve created which puts all the wrong things first (or perhaps I misunderstand it because I’m not an angry young man…) The point is, Zarek wants to destroy the past and start fresh. I’ve said before (I think) that Zarek has all these ideas about social reform and completely, and TOTALLY, ignores the existence of the Cylon. It really is as if he wants to constantly abandon anything that happened in the past and continue on from this instant forwards. So I suppose, perhaps, he’s worried that dragging up the treason during New Caprica and the attacks (what he was trying to avoid by getting rid of the worst offenders via the Circle) will only further trap the fleet in their patterns of fear and spite and anger and prevent any kind of forward movement as they fixate on the past?

I’m still not sure I’m not fanwanking this, though.

In summary, this really could have been a phenomenal episode if it had had slightly more build-up regarding the racial tensions re: the Saggitarions earlier in the season, and if it had had an ending that lived up to the intriguing and subtle racial commentary that existed in the first thirty-five minutes of the show. Unfortunately, it didn’t. It had a two-dimensional, easy-out ending, and nothing Dr Robert shouted would have come off as anything other than the ravings of a mad-man. If it had been a story of an insane, murderous Doctor, the ending would have been fine. But it wasn’t. It was a story about racism, and slapping on the insane, murderous Doctor ending undercut a lot of the power that might otherwise have existed in the intelligent and layered setup.

Comments

[nightxade.livejournal.com]

Actually that’s one of the reasons I’m glad Helo WAS such a stand up freight-train of moral authority in this episode. After the stunt he pulled killing those Cylons, he sort of has to be to maintain any kind of integrity.

Aha. This has been bugging me, but I couldn't figure out why. I thought you were referencing something in the past that I had not seen, or had not paid that much attention to. You're refering to A Measure of Salvation?

If so, I'll still stand up for Helo here and say that his actions in killing them were completely moral and in tune with the character of integrity they've made him out to be. He basically euthanised them in order to prevent genocide. Euthanising a group of Cylons who are inches from death who have already been abandoned by their fellows for obvious reasons vs destroying an entire race? I think the lesser of two evils is pretty clear? I say his argument and subsequent actions were quite sound, especially when he was completely willing to pay the price for his actions.

[beccatoria.livejournal.com]

I don't find Helo's actions hypocritical or immoral in terms of his character, nor do I find the euthanasia of terminally ill and soon to be executed beings for a greater purpose inherently evil.

The problem is, Helo argues that the cylons are a sentient race - this is something I agree with. He argues that it's a crime to commit genocide. Also correct. Where the arguement breaks down (to me) is that it's semantics and ideology over the harsh reality of death and extinction.

In A Measure of Salvation, they are offered a chance to fight back against an enemy who has commited genocide against them, who hunts them, who have devastated 20% of their numbers since their exodus began, and against whom they have never been able to find a defence or chance of long-term survival. Unfortunately, the option they have does not involve half-measures.

It's a horrible and a harsh situation to be put in, but in many ways, it literally was, commit genocide against your enemy, or tacitly sanction the continuing genocide of your own race.

While Helo prevented the humans from committing an attrocity, he failed to offer any practical alternative. In a very real way, every death human since that episode is a consequence of Helo's decision to make a moral choice for the entirety of his people - people who did not elect him to make that choice for them.

Roslin understands the horror of this, and the consequences, and when Adama won't take responsibility, she does, because the survival of humanity is all to her.

Helo acts in accordance with his own conscience, and in a theoretical sense, he's correct. And it would be nice if it were possible, in war, to act with honour, in accordance with conventions, when your enemy refuses to honour any of them (and lord knows I hope I'd try to honour them all). But he also put his own sense of honour ahead of the survival of his species.

And you know what? That's a valid idea. That you'd rather die a good person than taint your soul and survive. But it's not a choice I think it's okay to make for the masses without at least offering some sign that you know what you've just done. And no, I don't think his willingness to face the consequences "makes it better" (though it does continue to prove his heroism and honour) because there's nothing that can make that lost chance better; not for the deaths he shows no understanding of his culpability in. At least, he doesn't on screen.

So that's why I have...issues with his behaviour. I still think he's a total hero. But I'm a Roslin fangirl. I find the choice to do the wrong thing for the greater good fascinating and also heroic. And part of the complicated morality that I love about the show.

Helo's such a hero. But he affected tens of thousands with his choice and it caused many of the to die, and may cause the deaths of many more.

[nightxade.livejournal.com]

Blaming Helo for every death that follows is a little much, IMO. As proven, humans are just as capable of destroying ourselves for far pettier reasons than survival. I cannot help but think of events like Hiroshima where the greater good was bringing and end to war by destroying a few to save many -- but it's still a hard act to completely justify when either way, lives were lost. Here, it's clear that Cylon life is not considered to be comparable to humans, but they are still our creation. The decision to destroy them is playing god.

To allow genocide, would be to justify every evil man is capable of committing. While I appreciate (read: I love you Roslin and want to have your babies!) Roslin's line about 'let them hate us, but at least they're alive,' and I appreciate her knowing what the decision meant, she did not have the right to destroy humanity's (shakey) moral centre any more than Helo did to save it just because she is the president. Just because she's been elected president does not give her leave to do *anything* she wants (until she finally proclaims her dictatorship with Adama as her bitch, er, second in command).

To have committed genocide would have destroyed humanity in the long run, IMO. Especially when we've already seen that there are Cylons quite willing and able to love and become a part of human society. (Note: This is where I really started to respect Athena. Time and again, she's proven her loyalty to humanity, but here, she was willing to make and accept the ultimate sacrifice).

Helo's thinking is always flawed because it is too heavily based on the emotional. But I think that does need to be taken into consideration when making a decision on such a grand scale. Perhaps this is a foreshadowing to the hurricane Zarek predicts if Gaius is brought to trial.

[beccatoria.livejournal.com]

I’m not literally blaming Helo for every single death since AMoS. It’s more a philosophical question and one I think bears raising. Helo made a choice that removed a chance of stability and instead pitched the fleet into uncertainty, difficulty and in all likelihood a higher death toll. While I don’t think he should be held responsible for the death of every person after AMoS, I do think that he bears responsibility for the fleet’s current situation in a very clear way. They had the chance to change the status quo, rightly or wrongly, Helo took that chance away and so the continuing status quo is a direct result of his actions. I completely agree with your analysis that his thinking is flawed when he is considering those he loves (reverse hypothesis: Roslin is too ruthless when considering her charges).

I think the basic place our opinions diverge is “at what cost survival?” I find Roslin’s comment, “at least they’ll be alive to hate us,” extremely resonant and I’m not certain that that dark spot in history would destroy humanity. We've done some pretty dire things in our history, and yes, it's caused large elements of our society to be deeply, deeply screwed up, but (perhaps I'm being overly hopeful) we're slowly moving towards healing ourselves. I certainly don't think we're doomed or headed for destruction. The clearly self-defence-motivated ideas in AMoS are far more understandable to me than a lot of the horrors that have happened in our history.

I mean, I can’t think of a situation in reality where I would sanction genocide; it’s completely abhorrent. But that’s what I love about BSG – it puts me in a situation where I find myself supporting, or at least understanding the most disturbing of choices. Like election fraud. (Contextual note: my mother is American, I was born there, I’m a citizen and I have a vote; my dad is Welsh, I grew up there, speak the language and still live in the UK). As my put-upon friends will tell you, my absolute boiling rage at the theft of the most recent US election is…well it’s a thing to behold. When I found out Roslin was going to steal an election in season two, I was terrified; this woman is my idol and she’s doing this? And then, I saw the performances, understood what she believed was at stake, and I got it. I understood it. My moral scale slid and while I didn’t condone it, I didn’t condemn her either.

My problem with Helo and Adama’s arguments is that they don’t offer any viable alternatives beyond accepting death with some abstract idea of honour intact. Like I said, I think this is where our opinions are basically different. Yeah, there are some things I’d rather die than do, but in general, I’m pretty sold on survival. I’m pretty sold on the idea of trying to make sure others survive until they have the chance to decide for themselves it’s not worth it. Again - possible worldview differences.

I wanted a convincing argument from Adama or Helo. I wanted to be convinced it really would destroy humanity, as you say. But I didn’t get one. I got, “we’ll lose a piece of our soul,” and my response is, “what would I rather? Dead with an intact soul, or alive with a fractured one? When I don’t even know if such a thing as a soul exists, and neither do you Adama, because you’re an atheist.” (Which, again, personal worldview.)

I’ve seen this show do it before. It’s come up with wonderful arguments for the importance of sticking with democracy and honour even in the bleakest of situations when faced with death. From memory (so, paraphrased) an example from early season one, when Adama was more principled and less…hypocritical. Roslin wants Adama to use his marines as a peacekeeping police force during some water shortage riots. Adama thinks this is a terrible idea and instead of saying, “it’ll tear off a piece of a man’s soul,” he says: “The police exist to enforce the laws of the state. The military exists to protect the people from the enemies of the state. When the military become the police, the people tend to become the enemies of the state.”

And that’s just genius. And true, and shows how that decision would likely lead to a total breakdown of whatever civilization they currently have.

[nightxade.livejournal.com]

Actually, our opinions don't diverge. I do agree with everything you say, but i'm looking at it from me living in the Here and Now, which is the problem for me. I completely understand and accept Roslin's ruthless decisions for the sake of survival. "At least they'll be alive to hate us..." how do you argue that? But. There's just that part of me that ... I guess I'm Adama in that situation. I know it's what needs to be done to survive, but I don't want that on my shoulder -- on my soul. As much as I can pass it off onto Roslin, that's still too much to bear.

Adama was probably, ultimately, quite relieved that Helo did this. I'd almost say that he's allowing Helo to act out the good part of his own conscience. Why didn't he take a firmer stand with Athena and Helo over rescuing Hera? Because he wanted her rescued. Why didn't he punish Helo for killing the Cylons? Because he wanted them dead.

Did Adama refer to the soul? I'd accept conscience and overall morality of humanity as the argument. I agree that it just doesn't seem that strong when you weight life vs morality. But I can't help but remember Bishop's line in Alien 3 (which I believe was actually only in the book), where Ripley offered to help him and he asked instead to be shut down because he'd "rather be an intact memory, than a desicated reality."

'sides... there'd be no more BSG to watch if he didn't kill them ;P

[beccatoria.livejournal.com]

I do agree with everything you say, but i'm looking at it from me living in the Here and Now, which is the problem for me.

Always a valid perspective. I think that's what I was trying to get at with my previous post - that this show will take me out of the here and now and allow me to experience a rather shocking twist of opinion.

Were I actually in that situation, I think I'd probably be Adama too - I'd want to get out of having to be the one to "pull the trigger". Which is probably why I love Roslin so much - she's so unflinching. I'm reminded of Cain's speech - "When the moment comes, do not flinch or there'll be more kids in body bags going out the airlock." Roslin and Cain are very similar, actually. It's just Cain's focused on destroying the Cylon at any cost, while Roslin's focused on the survival of humanity.

It's why I love early season three Tigh so much - it shows the cost of being the one to "pull the trigger".

Did Adama refer to the soul? I'd accept conscience and overall morality of humanity as the argument.

He did, unfortunately, use the word "soul". Which irked me more than anything else because like you, I can accept the general opinion but would have much preferred he express it i terms of conscience and morality as opposed to metaphysics. Since he's established as non-religious.

Ripley offered to help him and he asked instead to be shut down because he'd "rather be an intact memory, than a desicated reality."

I haven't seen Alien 3 (though my boy says it's the best of the films and terribly under-rated by most people), but that is a wonderful quote.

[nightxade.livejournal.com]

ohoh! I found my argument! (Still no alternative solution though)

It occurred to me the that the humans (other than Gaius now) still don't know how many other Cylon models in human form exist. To destroy a significant chunk of them would certainly hurt them, but it could likely also cause the others to act. Therefore Roslin's decision would also cause more human deaths. Such a decision required a lot more thought than what went into it from both sides -- but again we come down to the situation/survival factor: there was no time to take this up with the committee.

I haven't seen Alien 3 (though my boy says it's the best of the films and terribly under-rated by most people), but that is a wonderful quote.

Action movies that involve too much thought and/or philosphy are generally under-rated. On my list are Terminator (all three), Aliens (all 4) and Pitch Black. All have inspired a lot of thought and discussion about things like fate, survival and humanity (ok so most of the discussion is with Simon, but that totally counts as far as I'm concerned).

I normally avoid books based on movies, but I believe this one was written by a Star Wars author I'd read, and also was cheap. I also read the Terminator book. Neither were wonderful, but in the latter, there was an incredibly memorable scene where big pouty stoic John breaks down for just long enough to hug Reese before sending him on his mission. All the while knowing that he was sending his father to die so that he could be born.

[beccatoria.livejournal.com]

The humans do know that there are twelve models, but you're right that they wouldn't know the whole "final five" schtick and would only have seen seven of them.

You mentioned you'd read at least one Star Wars book - well, I've read loads, which got me thinking and I think I've come up with a good counter-arguement to my own position from the Star Wars extended universe. Which you're probably not familiar with.

But I remember there's a situation where they're fighting a terrifying enemy species which is hell-bent on exterminating or enslaving the galaxy and the point is raised about whether or not one character - who was captured and tortured by them - hates them. He says no; there's nothing inherently evil about them. It's all upbringing and culture. Raise one in a different environment and it wouldn't be a xenophobic murderer. Surely if there's no inherent evil in them, a Jedi's goal, at least, should be expansion of their understanding and education rather than destruction. Which I think applies very well to the Cylon. Unfortunately, I don't have a practical way to apply that solution...

[nightxade.livejournal.com]

I read the SW books religiously up until the Correlian (SP) trilogy, at which point I just got bored and disappointed in them. I think I was tired of dealing with some of the less interesting writers.

Which book was that? Truce at Bakkura has come to mind for some odd reason.

That Jedi thinking is what I would hope for, but it's obviously idealistic. Helo could argue that Athena is good, but ultimately, only he trusts her beyond a doubt.

[beccatoria.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I had a similar experience - I read them voraciously when I discovered them at about...14? But eventually my interest in them dropped off (a little later than the Corellian trilogy but not much). I basically stuck around until Bantam Books lost the contract to Del Ray (I think chronologically there's only two more books after the Corellian trilogy and they were by Zahn).

Ironically, I think Del Ray started doing much more interesting stuff with the franchise, and I've been doing some catching up lately (albeit frequently in the form of audio books, which I love and wish were available unabridged). Some people complain that it's moving further away from the good-conquers-all space-fantasy of the movies, but personally I prefer it to the Bantam era when the status quo at the end of a novel was almost always the same as at the beginning. They also do much longer plot arcs, like, 9 - 19 books spanning 3 - 5 years periods with various authors all working together on an extended overarching plot.

Anyway, I'm babbling way away from the topic.

Truce at Bakura I don't remember as being particularly stellar, though if you like the author Kathy Tyers did write one or two of the Del Ray books.

It's interesting to me that hearing Helo say that there could be more cylons like Athena just made me think, yeah, but do you wanna go looking through that haystack? Whereas the Star Wars example, when phrased differently - when focusing not on who might already be out there, but on the inherent qualities of the being - i.e. if they were raised differently would they be different? - it's suddenly a viewpoint I have more sympathy with.

Though it still doesn't change my basic opinion of what happened in that episode, or where my sympathies lie!

[nightxade.livejournal.com]

My favourite is The Courtship of Princess Leia, although I think that had a lot to do with the pretty cover. It always amused me that Dru Struzan's (SP) cover images were always the same pose (from original movie stills) of the characters, just in a different outfit or with a different hairstyle.

but do you wanna go looking through that haystack?

Excuse me? Are you a Cylon? Oh. Excellent. Are you a nice Cylon?

(Sweet irony if he turned out to be the Cylon .. but I know that's not true)

if they were raised differently would they be different? - it's suddenly a viewpoint I have more sympathy with.

What made the Cylons turn on the humans? How were they raised to make them rebel?

Though it still doesn't change my basic opinion of what happened in that episode, or where my sympathies lie!

Heehee you're so Roslin biased :P

[beccatoria.livejournal.com]

It always amused me that Dru Struzan's (SP) cover images were always the same pose (from original movie stills) of the characters, just in a different outfit or with a different hairstyle.

I think I should adopt a similar attitude towards my life. I wonder if anyone would notice if a giant cardboard me in a wig showed up for work instead of the actual me...?

What made the Cylons turn on the humans? How were they raised to make them rebel?

Like slave-workers, perhaps?

Heehee you're so Roslin biased :P

Pfft! You say that as if it's a bad thing! When she declares herself Commandant and iron curtain descends, I know where I'll be! Happily occupying a minor ministry position, stifling dissent! FOR THE PARTY! :p

[nightxade.livejournal.com]

Oh no worries. I'll be handing out Roslin-shaped cookies. With Adama.