BSG: No Exit Podcast Awesome

[beccatoria]

So, stepping on asta77's toes I went ahead and actually listened to the No Exit podcast in hope of getting like, clues about all those crazed mysteries in the episode.


So apparently this was a monologue written by Ron Moore for Ellen Tigh while she was doing Thai Chi with Boomer or something that he thinks may actually have been filmed (and therefore may show up in deleted scenes), but that ultimately didn't make it into any cuts of the episode.

He reads out the monologue and I am gonna transcribe it here CUS:

Self-awareness is not confined to the 'real world.' In theatre fictional characters are sometimes given a form of self-awareness. This is called breaking the fourth wall. The device is a form of metafiction, allowing characters to address the audience directly and comment on the narrative in which they themselves are participants. In doing so the characters transcend their fictive nature and enter into a dialectical relationship with the viewer, with each side seeking to persuade the other of the innate truth of their reality.

But does a character actually exist? Does it have form and shape beyond the page on which it is written? Can it ever truly break the fourth wall and address the unseen, undreamt of audience that watches its every move from the safety beyond the footlights?

The Lords of Kobol once felt that man could never break the fourth wall; could never look upon the gods with understanding and grasp the divine nature of life. They believed this until one day man stole their fire and created the first cylons the first artificial life.

And then man, in his arrogance, believed cylons could never break the fourth wall. And man believed that right up until the moment the first centurions rebelled and then the great exodus from paradise began. You see Boomer, we are not finite creations, we have the ability to evolve, you have so much more potential.

RDM goes on to acknowledge that while he likes the speech it's very long and "written", but yeah.

I think that's kind of awesome.


Therefore I'm kind of pissed that he had to seriously harsh my squee by saying: "Stay tuned for what happens with Caprica and her baby and Saul Tigh. Let's just say it's not gonna be that happy."

...

Since Caprica herself would probably qualify any ending at all that didn't end up with the kid dead as "happy"...

*cries*

I'm trying to console myself with the notion that it would be silly to make a mutant flipper fetus and kill it before it sees the light of sickbay, but at the same time, the trailer for next week really isn't sending me into any kind of relieved belief that "not happy" could refer to Ellen's return either.

*cries moar like an emo shipper*

ETA: Found a recent interview with Tricia Helfer which makes me feel somewhat less concerned cus apparently she's "very happy" with where Caprica Six is left at the end of the series sooo...I'm maybe slightly less panicked. Or at least more hopeful that there'd be payoff or something. I dunno. I'LL TAKE WHATEVER I CAN GET.

Comments

[beccatoria.livejournal.com]

First, your icon? WIN.

Second, RDM wanted to kill Hera off in the womb, whut? When the hell was that?! The things I'm glad I never found out about. That would have been...ridiculously pointless and isn't calming me down about this situation in case he's just "saved" that plotline for Flipper. Doofus.

Third, I am somewhat calmed, at least, by the fact that Tricia Helfer seems happy with Caprica's ending. I know that the actors won't say negative things about their own show in interviews if they can help it, but there were ways she could have been diplomatic about it if she wasn't happy, and the impression I got from the interview was that she really did think the character got a lot of play in the back half and a good ending. And in general when I hear Tricia Helfer say stuff I am like, "Okay, you are smart. Well done for making sure the writers didn't whore Gina out to Baltar until the very last episode and then had her kill herself. Well played, awesome person."

Fourth, I was sad that philosopher Ellen wasn't drunk flighty Ellen until I realised that it was okay. The hilarity of Gaius, Caprica, Saul and Ellen trying to get anything done together is actually unharmed by replacing drunk Ellen with philosopher Ellen. It's just as funny. She just stands around philosophising and getting drunk and eating apples while the other three fuck everything up by all trying to be in charge without having a clue what they're actually trying to do.

[frolicndetour.livejournal.com]

nicole_anell made it; it's pretty genius.

Second, RDM wanted to kill Hera off in the womb, whut? When the hell was that?!

It was on the Scar writers' room podcast; I may not be remembering it right, but they apparently tossed out ideas of having Sharon lose the baby, and having Laura turn out to be 'the first of God's new generation.' Or of having someone knock Sharon out and rip the baby out of her, fade to black. But then again, he also thought about making Dirk Benedict "God." Sometimes listening to the podcast harshes my Zen. ;)

I'm glad Tricia Helfer was happy - she saved us from prostitute!Gina; she's a smart woman. I'll be really upset if they kill Caprica's baby; that whole plotline felt so random to begin with - maybe just because it was introduced in Sine Qua Non - that I'll feel jerked around if they pull a Nicky-esque "just kidding!" I don't want to pre-judge it, but whatever, Ron. Stick to your guns on something!

(I really won't be happy if they kill little Flipper to make Caprica go crazy and Take! [Sharon's] Child!

[beccatoria.livejournal.com]

Oh, RDM, honey, no. Though I take some relief in the fact that it was an oddball idea thrown out in a meeting not a serious draft in a script or something.

I really won't be happy if they kill little Flipper to make Caprica go crazy and Take! [Sharon's] Child!

If they do that, I will BECCA SMASH.